We have a 10 ft. 45S that is great.  It has walls for it to make a wonderful room.

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.  Albert Einstein 

Mike Saint-Amour
www.slowcarfasthouse.com

> On May 28, 2015, at 6:58 PM, John Goubeaux <john@UCSB.EDU> wrote:
> 
> Guys, sorry if I missed this in earlier posts, but what is the Fiamma
> model you are all referring to ? Someone mentioned the "1" but I do not
> find it on their product list.
> 
> Thanks  -john
> 
>> On 5/28/15 2:06 PM, Jason wrote:
>> Any awning can be destroyed or damaged by wind if not setup correctly.  The
>> Fiamma is just as sturdy in wind if you remember to peg it down!  The feet
>> both have holes for this.
>> 
>> Love the Fiamma, wouldn't give up it.  I would spend the money for a
>> replacement if I had to.
>> 
>> Jason
>> LT31 Florida (The big westy)
>> 
>> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <
>> camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> And what Bill says below exactly affirms my preference for the Shady Boy.
>>> 
>>> The Fiamma goes up quickly and easily. The Shady Boy requires a bit of
>>> setup. But it can be done by one, and for this camper, setting up camp
>>> is one of the pleasures of camping.
>>> 
>>> The Fiamma can be quickly destroyed by unexpected gusts or heavy
>>> precipitation. Probably smart to crank it back overnight if any weather
>>> weirdness is expected. For the Shady Boy, one has to learn the tricks to
>>> rig it for the conditions (as Tom Buese also commented on earlier in
>>> this thread), but once up, it's nearly bullet-proof.
>>> 
>>> As I've said earlier, I've sat under my Shady Boy -- and a few times had
>>> to escape into the van -- during stunningly-heavy hailstorms,
>>> thundershower, and great gusts of wind that have knocked camp furniture
>>> over . . . and it's weathered it all.
>>> 
>>> But you have to know how to rig it.
>>> 
>>> My feeling is that the Fiamma is good for your weekend camper who
>>> desires less fussing with poles and ropes and stakes. But for a fellow
>>> like me, who camps in secluded, solitary places for two weeks at a time,
>>> something robust is what I like and the Shady Boy does the job.
>>> 
>>> Next time someone says that they've seen Shady Boys being blown about by
>>> the wind, just know that what they witnessed is not a properly set-up
>>> Shady Boy, and ignore them.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
>>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
>>> Bend, Ore.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 05/28/2015 09:24 AM, William Monk wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have had my fiamma awning for over ten years. Twice the rear arm was
>>>> destroyed. Once when new and a sudden micro burst broke it. The second
>>>> time
>>>> in North Dakota after a 3am hail storm. I couldn't get out fast enough.
>>>> Both time I didn't have a front corner dipped low enough. Simple lever to
>>>> adjust. My fault. Parts came quick and priced very reasonable within days
>>>> to repair it.
>>>> I love the 2 minute set up. It doesn't have any crank or "clock" spring
>>>> set
>>>> up. Very basic F85 model.
>>>> But, Alistair drilling holes in your van..I don't know about you
>>>> sometimes?
>>>> 
>>>> Bill M
>>>> 87 Westy
>>>> Zetec Turbo
>>>> On May 28, 2015 11:22 AM, "Alistair Bell" <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  The recent talk about the pros and cons of the shady boy reminded me of a
>>>>> long outstanding fix I wanted to make to mine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The stock attachment method for the stainless steel minting brackets to
>>>>> the van is using stainless sheet metal screws. Leaving aside the
>>>>> contentious :-) aspect of drilling holes into your van, I never loved the
>>>>> sheet metal screws and I have noticed them loosening.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So the other day I drilled out the holes in the van to accept 1/4-20
>>>>> riv-nut inserts. My particular inserts fit tightly in holes drilled with
>>>>> letter drill S.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also cut some neoprene foam gaskets to go between the bracket and the
>>>>> van and long enough to wrap around the end of the bracket where it bears
>>>>> against the rain gutter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now with the insets and 1/4-20 stainless bolts the brackets are securely
>>>>> mounted to the van.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One more thing, with the sheet metal screws I had slathered on rtv
>>>>> silicone sealant between the bracket and the van. I left that off with
>>>>> the
>>>>> foam gasket change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alistair
>>>>> 
>>>>>