I know I was teasing you Stuart, but you've raised good points that have been raised before and I guess really should be addressed now.

Personally, I don't like Facebook, but I understand how it works well for many people. I like this list, the samba, and some European fora that I peek in on.

I have a strong sentimental and yes, rational, attachment to this mailing list and I would hate to see it end. I think I subscribed back in late 93 or early 94, and it has been as much a part of my vanagon life as anything else.

But I would hate to see it end up as just a few folk talking into the dark.

Alistair

> On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Alistair, 
> 
> Yes, no doubt. We are probably the last three members left--only David, you
> and me now.  Maybe BenT to make four.  Call this the "last straw thread."
> 
> Pictures? Who needs stinkin' pictures when you can read text and visualize
> complex mechanical systems and concepts!!! Or not. 
> 
> Keeps your brain working as you get older. I hope so anyway.
> 
> Even my son with his '87 Westy won't join this group, he's on the FB. Just
> as well or I'd probably embarrass him.
> 
> I wish it was Friday, I have a bit of a surprise for the mods.  Stay tuned.
> 
> Stuart
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Alistair Bell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 6:32 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Rear axle torque specs?
> 
> Playing with the spare set of hubs, housings, and stub axles in the mess I
> call my workshop, I notice the radial play of the hub on the stub axle
> diminishes as the hub fetches up against the ramps at the end of the grooves
> in the stub axle. 
> 
> I suppose I should assemble a unit minus the bearing housing and see if the
> hub comes up onto the ramps. But I can't be bothered pressing on, then off,
> the bearings.
> 
> Hey Stuart, did I push more members to Facebook?
> 
> :-)
> 
> Alistair
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 12:58 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
>> 
>> At 01:02 PM 6/3/2015, OlRivrRat wrote:
>>>       AnyOne care to discuss just what might cause the Spacer to 
>>> Wear Shorter ~
>> 
>> Whatever moves against another surface will wear, evenly or with one 
>> sacrificial to the other (paradixically, the harder surface tends to 
>> sacrifice to the softer).  I  don't see the spacer as being in any 
>> particular danger unless its composition is such that it moves and 
>> wears preferentially to everything else in the assembly, which could 
>> be.  Even so, I think that the splines getting beaten up on axle and 
>> hub will be the major issue, not longitudinal wear.  Ideally those 
>> splines would exist only as a safety backup, but whether or not that 
>> applies here impact loading on them has to be kept to a minimum so 
>> they don't beat each other out of shape. leading to an accelerating 
>> cycle of increasing clearances leading to increased impact loads.  It 
>> would be simpler if they were loaded only in one direction, but they 
>> have to handle decelerating and reverse-gear loads as well.
>> 
>> Yours,
>> David
>