I can't abide Facebook, don't use it, never have, though I once signed on at the urging of an acquaintance.  Found it not to my taste.

I would not like to see this list disappear.  Though I do not have the knowledge or skills of so many others on here, I very much enjoy learning from the conversation here, and sharing what I can regards those things I do know about -- mainly to do with camping and traveling with my beast.

So, let's keep it alive, and encourage others.  Pictures?  Alll one needs to do is post a link, and the pictures are there.  What's wrong with that?  Besides, exercising one's descriptive skills and applying spatial imagination to other's descriptions is a part of the fun in life.

mcneely

---- Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> There should always be a place for an old school list like this. I joined in
> 2000, and learned a lot after owning my '84 for fourteen years (bought it in
> '86).  I'm now on my second, an '85 bought in 2012 after adventures with a
> '97 EVC between the two.
>
> I think the core of veterans can keep it going, and I hope some of the Gen
> Xers and younger will at least lurk.  But this can be an intimidating place,
> it's just easier to post a photo or five to FB and get a conversation going.
> I understand that, but this is the important knowledge base with folks like
> you, Dennis, Scott, David, Ken, Neil, Ben, OlRivrRat, Felder, Jeff, Mark
> Drillock the beach bum, and many others, including our vendors, have built.
> (Mark needs to post some photos somewhere, maybe on FB.)
>
> It's "institutional knowledge" that cannot be replaced.  And, it's all in
> the archives, which are easily searchable.
>
> "Live on Vanagon dot com!"
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alistair Bell [mailto:albell@shaw.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:39 PM
> To: Stuart MacMillan
> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Subject: End of the list? Was Re: Rear axle torque specs?
>
>
> I know I was teasing you Stuart, but you've raised good points that have
> been raised before and I guess really should be addressed now.
>
> Personally, I don't like Facebook, but I understand how it works well for
> many people. I like this list, the samba, and some European fora that I peek
> in on.
>
> I have a strong sentimental and yes, rational, attachment to this mailing
> list and I would hate to see it end. I think I subscribed back in late 93 or
> early 94, and it has been as much a part of my vanagon life as anything
> else.
>
> But I would hate to see it end up as just a few folk talking into the dark.
>
> Alistair
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Alistair,
> >
> > Yes, no doubt. We are probably the last three members left--only
> > David, you and me now.  Maybe BenT to make four.  Call this the "last
> straw thread."
> >
> > Pictures? Who needs stinkin' pictures when you can read text and
> > visualize complex mechanical systems and concepts!!! Or not.
> >
> > Keeps your brain working as you get older. I hope so anyway.
> >
> > Even my son with his '87 Westy won't join this group, he's on the FB.
> > Just as well or I'd probably embarrass him.
> >
> > I wish it was Friday, I have a bit of a surprise for the mods.  Stay
> tuned.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> > Behalf Of Alistair Bell
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 6:32 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Rear axle torque specs?
> >
> > Playing with the spare set of hubs, housings, and stub axles in the
> > mess I call my workshop, I notice the radial play of the hub on the
> > stub axle diminishes as the hub fetches up against the ramps at the
> > end of the grooves in the stub axle.
> >
> > I suppose I should assemble a unit minus the bearing housing and see
> > if the hub comes up onto the ramps. But I can't be bothered pressing
> > on, then off, the bearings.
> >
> > Hey Stuart, did I push more members to Facebook?
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Alistair
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 3, 2015, at 12:58 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
> >>
> >> At 01:02 PM 6/3/2015, OlRivrRat wrote:
> >>>       AnyOne care to discuss just what might cause the Spacer to
> >>> Wear Shorter ~
> >>
> >> Whatever moves against another surface will wear, evenly or with one
> >> sacrificial to the other (paradixically, the harder surface tends to
> >> sacrifice to the softer).  I  don't see the spacer as being in any
> >> particular danger unless its composition is such that it moves and
> >> wears preferentially to everything else in the assembly, which could
> >> be.  Even so, I think that the splines getting beaten up on axle and
> >> hub will be the major issue, not longitudinal wear.  Ideally those
> >> splines would exist only as a safety backup, but whether or not that
> >> applies here impact loading on them has to be kept to a minimum so
> >> they don't beat each other out of shape. leading to an accelerating
> >> cycle of increasing clearances leading to increased impact loads.  It
> >> would be simpler if they were loaded only in one direction, but they
> >> have to handle decelerating and reverse-gear loads as well.
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >> David
> >

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David McNeely