

| Subject: | Re: Engine hesitates upon take off |
| From: | PB |
| Date: | Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:11:09 -0700 |
My 90 Westy automatic has done the exact same thing ever since I had it. I'd like for it to drive like without the brief hesitation after a stop, but thankfully, it has never stalled or failed to start. Thanks to this forum, I've been much better about taking it in for routine service than I have with my 2002 Jeep Liberty! I'm getting an idea of what I should discuss with my mechanic the next time I take it in for routine servicing. Patti On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:29 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > it would be handy to have another AFM to try. > > Someone mentioned dead spot on your AFM's sweeper contact area ( under > the black cover ) . > I'll go along with that idea. > > I had two cases that were clearly the AFM .. > first one was an 84 auto trans Westy ...would just 'cut out for a > fraction of a second at 70mph .. > I think that was a dead spot on the AFM sweeper for sure . > > another one was a Syncro with 2.1 engine... > very subtle uneven running right at 3,100 to 3,200 rpm. Some people > wouldn't even notice it. > I was reluctant to diagnose 'new AFM' needed as a new one was $ 500. > > when I found a piece of gear tooth on the trans magnetic drain plug the > van's owner said to rebuild trans, and replace clutch and starter ,, > so with all that .hey ..what's another 500 dollar part, right ? > > the new AFM fixed that subltle uneven running for sure. > > you should at least have a spare to experiement with. > I would still go over those things I mentioned. > > here is one of my long-time diagnostic rules.. > when you 'get lost' ....start over. > > Start over With the Basics ... > and keep doing that until either you find something you missed.. > or you learn something new and subtle .. > 'eventually' you'll get it fixed with that method. > > lol...one engine I worked on would barely run ..just awful ...loads up, > wouldn't wind out ..wouldn't run worth beans.. > and one by one things that were not right were found .. > significant things ...like 8 'wrong or worn out things' in the course > of a week working on it .. > and yet.. > the same symptoms persisted. > > Also ran up against lack of money for 'test parts' like in your case a > known-good AFM .. > lack of parts for that model and lack of tech info too . > I would have invested in a throttle body in that particular case buy the > owner didn't want to. > lol..that case is still 'pending'. > > as always .."it's just a blockage or leakage of fluids or electrons." > I promise you that. > > > > On 6/16/2015 9:02 AM, Rocket J Squirrel wrote: > >> Thanks, Scott. >> >> I've been through all of these at one point or another when trying to >> solve my van's famous "it cuts out repeatedly for a few seconds every >> minute or so when driving up very steep grades for a long period of time >> in very hot weather" issue. >> >> -- >> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott >> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, >> Bend, Ore. >> >> On 06/15/2015 07:15 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) wrote: >> >>> the normal thing to check or think about in a case like this is Temp >>> Sensor II .. >>> there are two by your thermostat .. >>> a single contact for the gauge .. >>> the other one ...check the resistance of that one and compare that to >>> what Bentley says. >>> >>> also ..super important and I find them off all the time.. >>> idle switch not making contact at idle. >>> >>> you might look for tiny air leaks ..( like with spray carb cleaner or a >>> listening hose ). >>> I had one engine that >>> when given throttle it would moan like air was being drawn in .. >>> and it ran medium OK .. >>> but it seemed very much like it was not getting the fuel injected to go >>> with the air. >>> >>> on that one I found really ..at least 10 tiny air leaks at the intake >>> runners..the plenum ..and the throttle body connection >>> and that was it. >>> >>> do these 3 things and there's a fair chance you'll find some some >>> things not exactly right. >>> >>> On 6/15/2015 10:23 AM, Rocket J Squirrel wrote: >>> >>>> I've had this same problem for years. But different: mine's a 1.9L, and >>>> the problem occurs in cold (read freezing or below) temperatures, >>>> with a >>>> cold engine. I have this mile-long generally downhill street I go down >>>> when I leave the house. It's not long enough for the engine to warm up. >>>> At the bottom is a stoplight. Usually red, as such things go. The >>>> street >>>> turns uphill at this point so there I sit at the limit line with the >>>> nose of the van pointing up a very slight grade, the engine idling, a >>>> minute or so, then the light turns green, I press on the gas, and the >>>> engine grumbles and barely moves the van. Sometimes the engine just >>>> dies >>>> and I have to restart it to proceed. Not until I've crossed the >>>> intersection does it seem to have any power. It's an auto trans so I >>>> don't have the luxury of revving the engine and feathering the >>>> clutch to >>>> get across the intersection. A bit of an inconvenience to myself and >>>> those behind me. >>>> >>>> Once it warms up it's fine. >>>> >>>> Why does it do this? I don't know. The number of things that would need >>>> to be disassembled and tested (or just blindly-replaced) to try to fix >>>> the problem is daunting. I'll take the slight inconvenience. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott >>>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, >>>> Bend, Ore. >>>> >>>> On 06/15/2015 07:25 AM, Rick Cooper wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've noticed that when accelerating from an intersection, after >>>>> sitting at >>>>> a red light, my 2.1 WBX will sometimes hesitate for 5 to 15 seconds. >>>>> I'll >>>>> start moving, but the engine has no power and giving it more gas does >>>>> nothing. After those few seconds, the engine will start to pick up >>>>> power >>>>> and soon everything will be running fine. >>>>> >>>>> This has just start happening and is still sporadic, but it is >>>>> becoming >>>>> more frequent. Seems to only happen after a full stop, like at a red >>>>> light. Would this be a clogged fuel filter or what? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any ideas. FWIW, the fuel tank and the ECU were replaced >>>>> a few >>>>> years ago. >>>>> >>>>> Rick >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> -- *♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪♪♫**♥**♫♪* If it's not on my Smart Phone, it doesn't exist... ●▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬♥▬▬▬ஜ۩۞۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬●
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