

| Subject: | Re: Propane and refrigerator success |
| From: | Rocket J Squirrel |
| Date: | Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:57:33 -0700 |
The inside temp rise lags the outside temp rise (as the day warms) by an hour or more. That may be what you're seeing. -- Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, Bend, Ore. On 06/27/2015 12:29 PM, Eric Caron wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Just out of curiosity I’ve been watching the internal temp now that I changed over to shore power. the internal temperature is rising and is now about 35 F and this is more then I’d expect as it is only about 3 F warmer then this morning. I’d guess my unit actually does a bit better on propane, certainly not more efficient on shore power. > > Eric > > On Jun 27, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@MYMTS.NET> wrote: >> >> Sounds logical but my heart tells me it gets colder on electricity. Of course my hearts only 50% efficient :) >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Same thing. The heat source is irrelevant, the limitation comes from the ammonia cycle. >>> >>> -- >>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott >>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, >>> Bend, Ore. >>> >>>> On 06/27/2015 11:32 AM, Jeff Palmer wrote: >>>> What's the delta when it's on shore power? >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey Eric, >>>>> >>>>> I've done a lot of testing of interior temp v exterior temp on two >>>>> models of ammonia-cycle regfrigerators -- the stock Vanagon one, and a >>>>> standalone Dometic RC3000 unit that I use on longer off-the-grid camping >>>>> trips. >>>>> >>>>> The ammonia cycle is capable of pulling something around a 40 degree (F) >>>>> differential between ambient temperature and internal temperature, and >>>>> my measurements agree with this. >>>>> >>>>> If it's a 100-degree (F) day, the inside of the refrigerator will slowly >>>>> climb up to 60F. That is above the maximum allowable temperature for >>>>> food safety (between 40F to 140F is the "danger zone") and also results >>>>> in beer that is warmer than I like to drink. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott >>>>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, >>>>> Bend, Ore. >>>>> >>>>>> On 06/27/2015 07:30 AM, Eric Caron wrote: >>>>>> Back to the original thread! >>>>>> >>>>>> checked my internal refrigerator temp this morning and it is 29 F and >>>>>> the outside temperature was 67 F. inside the van was 70 F. dial was >>>>>> set to Max cooling. >>>>>> >>>>>> Am I correct that this is the expected functioning of my stock >>>>>> refrigerator with all stock parts and no related van mods? I was >>>>>> considering pulling it to clean and upgrade to go westy fan but am >>>>>> thinking that is probably a bad idea with it working well at this >>>>>> point. Van has always lived inside and from what I can tell it is >>>>>> clean behind and under the unit. I even keep the original outside >>>>>> vent cover on when not in use. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, I’ll admit it. Before lighting yesterday I turned on the stove >>>>>> burners each just for a couple of seconds. they sounded air free and >>>>>> smooth. I’ll light refrigerator without doing this next time. Hum, >>>>>> or maybe I’ll keep doing it as a good luck charm! >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Caron 85 GL Auto Westfalia Currently on shore power waiting for >>>>>> another temp check. Beverages cold and waiting. Is it 5:00 o’clock >>>>>> somewhere? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My all-time favorite. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 9:00 AM Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And not resetting the trip odometer while the van is moving? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Rocket J Squirrel < >>>>>>>> camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Unless someone can come up with a scenario where air can get >>>>>>>>> into a sealed and pressurized propane line, I declare running >>>>>>>>> the stove to light the refigerator as being in the same >>>>>>>>> category as holding your tongue just right. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott 1984 Westfalia, auto >>>>>>>>> trans, Bend, Ore. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 06/26/2015 05:56 PM, Jim Felder wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No need. The stove and the fridge are on separate gas >>>>>>>>>> "circuits" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM PB <pbrattan@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oh - one more hint they gave me, and I think the manual said >>>>>>>>>> the same >>>>>>>>>>> thing: Light the stove first. Once the propane is >>>>>>>>>>> actually running in the stove, the fridge will start more >>>>>>>>>>> easily. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
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