

| Subject: | Re: Tires.. Again..Insurance reasons... |
| From: | SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) |
| Date: | Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:16:50 -1000 |
it's true ... mild understeer as a basic handling trait is 'safer' for most people...or less-skilled drivers.. And a vehicle that has just a touch of understeer at the limit is just fine. Oversteer of course is generally dangerous and requiring much more driver skills. examples of Famous and notorious understeering cars . Probably the early Porsche 911's were the worst fairly common car by far. That model car started in 1965- at a time when VW Bugs still had swing axle rear suspension .. At one point Porsche even had weights in the front bumper to tone down twitchness ( and oversteer ) when changing direction . Not sure if they increased the wheel base a tiny bit in the late 60's but they may have. > they're still making that model ...longest run of one continuously developed platform ....super dialed in now with no vices like oversteer or steering kicking back on pumps. You've come a long way Baby. > and VW owns Porsche now too , for VW content. but 'terminal understeer' .....like 'very prone to understeer badly and early in steady-state cornering' .. that sucks. On 6/21/2015 3:38 AM, Don Hanson wrote: > Some have deduced that manufacturers recommended tire pressures are meant > to actually cause vehicles to understeer, withpotential lawsuits as the > main reason rather than effective traction.. (understeer is when the > front tires lose traction first. so the vehicle 'plows' straight ahead > when the traction limit is exceeded) This is said to be a decision made > by lawyers and insurance companies so that they can avoid liability when > people 'over-drive' their vehicles and crash em....When the crash happens, > it's can more easily be proven to be the driver's fault if the car goes > front-first into the ditch...."That car was going too fast!...See, he just > couldn't make the corner, he went straight off......" like that. If the > the vehicle was sold with some understeer (when the rear end loses traction > first) the Lawyers can argue that it was the vehicle's manufacturers fault > ......"The driver was just going round the corner and all of a sudden, the > car spun out and flew off the road....." >
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