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Subject:Re: Horn problem
From:Dennis Jowell
Date:Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:37:17 -0400

SDF,
Horn ring is in good shape. I lightly lubed the contacts because there is always some friction there. Works great! now I not need to test drive it. On to the next problem. Did a pressure test on the coolant system using GOWESTY's pump. At 12 psi a hose on the left side of the engine started to leak. Now have to order a replacement for it. So much for "Westy's by the River" next week in Vermont. I was looking forward to meeting some of our list members.

Laters
Dennis

Dennis Jowell
Scotch Hollow Farm
Newbury, Vermont 

> On Jul 13, 2015, at 5:32 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> 
> what is the condition of the Horn Contact Ring on the underside of the steering wheel ?
> 
> those are usually torn up after these many years. It is a replaceable part.
> 
> Since the steering spends 95 % of it's time going straight...one particular spot on the horn contact ring wears a lot.
> It's one of those spots ..
> among dozens and dozens on a vanagon that barely anyone knows to lube....where the part that rubs on the contact right touches the contact right.
> 
> going back together I'd use dielectric grease there.
> Long term ...personally having always had great results with this method..I'd give it a light shot of wd-40 a couple times a year. 
> 
>> On 7/13/2015 5:45 AM, Dennis Jowell wrote:
>> New information. After another cup off coffee I figured out that the horn
>> rim on the steering wheel grounds out on the directional signal plate. When
>> I tighten down the steering wheel nut the horn will blow, back off the nut
>> and all,is well. The brass horn ring is seated into the steering wheel. I
>> think I could solve the problem if I put a thin metal shim/washer to raise
>> the steering wheel up a slight bit? Any thoughts before I go forward?
>> 
>> On Monday, July 13, 2015, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's what I found. Horn rim off steering wheel,nut off, keys are free so
>>> not to ground out the horn. Turned ignition on moved loose steering wheel
>>> up and down etc and the horn goes off as I move the steering wheel. Take
>>> steering wheel off move steering shaft with vise grips, no horn. Brass
>>> finger is at a 25-30 degree pitch up. I suppose to contact the brass ring,
>>> the finger shows some wear. Finger shows electrical continuity to shaft and
>>> directional signal silver colored plate.
>>> 
>>> On Monday, July 13, 2015, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dennisjowell@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Out I go to the Westy. I'll let you know what happens. Thanks for the
>>>> quick response.
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday, July 13, 2015, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Check the ground connector spade terminal down near the floor and the
>>>>> ring/finger assembly on the back of the steering wheel and on the face of
>>>>> the turn signal assembly. That thin brass gets out of whack and will drive
>>>>> you crazy. Also make sure your keys aren't sticking into the crack below
>>>>> the steering wheel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pull the wheel and turn the wheels with vice grips on the shaft. If it
>>>>> still blows it isn't in the steering area UNLESS the plastic collar at the
>>>>> top of the shaft is damaged allowing contact between the the shaft and the
>>>>> tube.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Help! My horn is going off when I turn the steering wheel left or
>>>>> right when parked or driving.
>>>>>> I took the horn assembly apart, unconnected the +&- leads. While
>>>>> parked, ignition on, no horn rim, turned the steering wheel and the horn
>>>>> blows. Crazy! Drop,the steering column electrical harness and found no
>>>>> apparent problem there. Is there a fix for this?
>>>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>>>>> Newbury, Vermont
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Dennis Jowell
>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>>> Newbury, Vermont
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Dennis Jowell
>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>> Newbury, Vermont
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Dennis Jowell
>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>> Newbury, Vermont
>> 
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