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Subject:Re: Solar for VANGONS?
From:Alistair Bell
Date:Thu, 9 Jul 2015 20:03:19 -0700

I was waiting for this, I should have set a a pool so we could bet on how long it would take don to post this.

:-)

Alistair

> On Jul 9, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Sounds good, but if it is viable the oil companies won't stand still for
> that kinda thing...We had electric vehicles that worked really well years
> ago and they squashed those...kept them down for a long time until  some
> bigger more powerful corporation came back with hybrids...and now full
> electric cars are back again..
>   We shall see how this plays out...
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Mark Hersh <cmwolfsburg@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it would seem like it would take acres and acres and acres of solar
>> panels to produce enough energy to produce 80 L of diesel per day from
>> water and CO2.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> John, John, John.  Not so fast.  The process requires hydrolysis of water
>>> to provide the necessary hydrogen, a high energy demand reaction.  We are
>>> talking about serious energy inputs above the energy storage in the fuel.
>>> While it may be a way to produce fuel, the energy it consumes could be
>> more
>>> readily used directly for other applications much more profitably,
>>> methinks.  mcneely
>>> 
>>> ---- John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>> Recently, the Germans have developed a solar system to convert water
>> and
>>>> CO2 to 80 liters of diesel fuel per day. If you have a diesel van this
>>>> could be a real boon. Thats approximately 20 gallons of diesel fuel per
>>>> day! Given the additional mileage you get with a diesel the could be a
>>>> wallet saver. You could run around a week on one days solar production,
>>>> building a daily reserve of 20 gallons a day. By weeks end there would
>> be
>>>> enough for a serious trip and other things. Anyone looked into this?
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>> 
>>> --
>>> David McNeely
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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