John,
Going to do it that way this morning but first need to warm up. 38 degrees this morning another beautiful cold one here in Vermont . "Westy's by the River"  folks are probably chilly this morning. We will be there tomorrow but not our Westy.

Dennis Jowell
Scotch Hollow Farm
Newbury, Vermont 

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:51 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I had an '88 GL on which installed a SA Grille and upgraded lights and relays. For the lights, per the instructions that came with them, I cut the ground wires and grounded to the frame a short distance from the lights.
> 
> Worked great.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2015 5:30 PM, "Dennis Jowell" <dennisjowell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The original headlight grounds wires do go to the front towards the main panel. I just can't locate the correct ones. To simplify the install I will cut the ground wires at the headlight assembly and ground them there on bare metal. Then I can go forward with the installation of the upgrade.
>> I just needed some time to think on it. Dennis, Your suggestion set me thinking. Thank you again for that.
>> Laters,
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis Jowell
>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>> Newbury, Vermont
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > All these instructions assume the van's wiring is original. If someone
>> > changed the headlight grounding in anyway all bets are off. It is very
>> > common for the headlights to be re-grounded near the lights which is a great
>> > idea. Reduce the length of the wire run and the resulting voltage drop.
>> >
>> > Denis
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Dennis Jowell
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:16 AM
>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> > Subject: Bus depot headlight upgrade "Vision Kit" for 1988 vanagon GL
>> >
>> > Jim
>> > The basic problem on the headlight install is step one of the instructions.
>> > " unplug the double ground wire from ground star and cut them into 2 singles
>> > wires. Check to make sure you have the correct ground connection by noticing
>> > with the ground wire unplugged that the existing Headlights go out" sounds
>> > good- I disconnected all the ground wire one at a time from both stars and
>> > the headlights don't go out. I will try again this afternoon.
>> >
>> > Dennis Jowell
>> > Scotch Hollow Farm
>> > Newbury, Vermont