

| Subject: | Re: 1981 Brake Caliper Decision |
| From: | Neil N |
| Date: | Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:52:46 -0700 |
Thanks Jon. The wheel-tire cost is something to consider for sure and something I tend to forget about. How convenient. ha ha. ;) At this point, a local vendor has what I think are new, not remanufactured, newer style calipers. I installed a pair on my '88 That bus has better braking than my '81 and what I'd consider to be "normal" by modern standards. A *very* kind fellow Vanagon enthusiast set me up with known good newer style steering knuckles, calipers, lower arms etc. I'll install those along with the GW progressive springs I just received. For the foreseeable future, I'll keep the older brakes, in part because I want to see how much better I can make them using well documented info from this list. It's all been done before, but I'd like to learn more and improve what's there. To that end: - try to find pads that have more "bite" (grab better at first application) Excessive dusting or accelerated rotor wear are not a concern for me. - install the silencer shims I found at van-cafe. These may help the pads wear evenly. The last set wore at an angle possibly due to lack of these shims? - install new shoes, shim out lower anchors as needed - rebuild a spare set of Girling calipers with new pistons, seals. A recently replaced failing master cylinder has certainly improved the brakes. Neil. On 7/23/15, Jon VO <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote: > Bigger brake kit means at least 15", most likely 16" wheels to clear the > calipers on any of the high quality kits; Small Car, GoWesty, Van-Cafe, etc. > Also, with the 16" steel wheels, you will also need to add 10-12mm spacers > for clearance. These 10mm spacers will then require new longer lug bolts to > allow proper engagement. Alternately you could opt for alloys, although they > are 7" wide, a bit much for a 205R65-16 tire. However that is all that is > available, at least easily found. > The wheel/tire packages sold by the the same parts vendors will clear the > brake kits just fine, but are pricey, $1K to $1.2K. I sue the Nokian van > tire, 205R65-16 or 215R65-16, the latter size will not fit in my spare tire > area up front, the 205 will, with some mods, and only on a steel wheel > (narrower). The 16" alloys with either tire will require an external spare > tire rack, due to the width & diameter, at least on my van. > But you'll have nice brakes... > Jon > >> On 5/17/2015 5:34 PM, Neil N wrote: > >> >> My choices: >> >> - upgrade steering knuckles, install a "Bigger Brake Kit" >> - upgrade steering knuckles, install new '86 + calipers etc. >> - rebuild a spare set of Girling calipers. >> >> Is rebuilding the old style calipers a waste of time? -- Neil n Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy> 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical <http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/> Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>
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