One of the issues with stock brakes is fade, especially with campers

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> On Jul 23, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jon.
> 
> The wheel-tire cost is something to consider for sure
> and something I tend to forget about. How convenient.  ha ha.  ;)
> At this point, a local vendor has what I think are new,
> not remanufactured, newer style calipers. I installed a pair
> on my '88 That bus has better braking than my '81
> and what I'd consider to be "normal" by modern standards.
> 
> A *very* kind fellow Vanagon enthusiast set me up with known good
> newer style steering knuckles, calipers, lower arms
> etc. I'll install those along with the GW progressive springs
> I just received. For the foreseeable future, I'll keep
> the older brakes, in part because I want to see how much
> better I can make them using well documented info
> from this list. It's all been done before, but I'd like to learn
> more and improve what's there.
> 
> To that end:
> 
> - try to find pads that have more "bite" (grab better at first application)
>  Excessive dusting or accelerated rotor wear are not a concern for me.
> - install the silencer shims I found at van-cafe.
>  These may help the pads wear evenly. The last set wore at an angle
>  possibly due to lack of these shims?
> - install new shoes, shim out lower anchors as needed
> - rebuild a spare set of Girling calipers
>  with new pistons, seals.
> 
> A recently replaced failing master cylinder has certainly improved
> the brakes.
> 
> Neil.
> 
>> On 7/23/15, Jon VO <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Bigger brake kit means at least 15", most likely 16" wheels to clear the
>> calipers on any of the high quality kits; Small Car, GoWesty, Van-Cafe, etc.
>> Also, with the 16" steel wheels, you will also need to add 10-12mm spacers
>> for clearance. These 10mm spacers will then require new longer lug bolts to
>> allow proper engagement. Alternately you could opt for alloys, although they
>> are 7" wide, a bit much for a 205R65-16 tire. However that is all that is
>> available, at least easily found.
>> The wheel/tire packages sold by the the same parts vendors will clear the
>> brake kits just fine, but are pricey, $1K to $1.2K. I sue the Nokian van
>> tire, 205R65-16 or 215R65-16, the latter size will not fit in my spare tire
>> area up front, the 205 will, with some mods, and only on a steel wheel
>> (narrower). The 16" alloys with either tire will require an external spare
>> tire rack, due to the width & diameter, at least on my van.
>> But you'll have nice brakes...
>> Jon
>> 
>>>> On 5/17/2015 5:34 PM, Neil N wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My choices:
>>> 
>>> - upgrade steering knuckles, install a "Bigger Brake Kit"
>>> - upgrade steering knuckles, install new '86 + calipers etc.
>>> - rebuild a spare set of Girling calipers.
>>> 
>>> Is rebuilding the old style calipers a waste of time?
> 
> 
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