

| Subject: | Re: Voltage leak found |
| From: | Jim Felder |
| Date: | Tue, 1 Sep 2015 15:00:06 +0000 |
I like relays. I have them on all the applicable lights and accessories. Any suggestion as to the details? Jim On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:57 AM Jon VO <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, my understanding is a bit different; the ignition switch controls > /switched/ power to the stereo, and is the source of the amplifier & > control power which is usually multiple amps for a high-powered stereo. > The other continuous power lead is supposed to draw only a few milliamps > to keep the memory charged and for control functions, and is powered all > the time. At least that is the way the stereos worked when the Vanagon > was current. If you want to reduce the current through the ignition > switch, you would need to add a relay, and I believe some newer vehicles > already do this. > Jon > > On 9/1/2015 8:45 AM, Rocket J Squirrel wrote: > > The keying wire itself draws little current, it just provides a signal > > voltage to the unit to put it to sleep or wake it up. The designers > > assume that you don't want to draw a bunch of amperes through your > > ignition circuit, so it's the the always-on wire that is the main source > > of power for the unit. > > > > How much current the unit itself draws from its always-on wire when > > asleep (standby) is a matter of design. But the key wire is not a > > significant current-drawer. > > > > What I'm saying is that you can put the unit into standby with the key > > wire and it can still be drawing hundreds of milliamperes through its > > always-on wire. That's the one you have to watch out for. > > > > -- > > Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott > > 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, > > Bend, Ore. > > > > On 09/01/2015 07:30 AM, Jim Felder wrote: > >> I remember when you went through all that, about the same time I bought > >> my radio. So, using the keyed hot wire will draw very little or no > >> current? I like the idea from a previous post that I could install a > >> switch to connect it to either circuit, aways hot and switched hot. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:26 AM Rocket J Squirrel > >> <camping.elliott@gmail.com <mailto:camping.elliott@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Many car stereos/radios don't really turn off. They mute and the > >> front > >> panel goes dark, the power amp sections shut down, and the > >> controls go > >> to sleep, but they are still partially on and drawing current. I > >> guess > >> the manufacturers assume that you drive your car frequently. > >> > >> The current draw is through the main power wire, the other wire, > >> frequently connected to the ignition switch, doesn't draw much > >> current > >> at all -- it is used to signal the unit to wake up. > >> > >> I had to search high and low to find a unit that actually powers > >> off -- > >> not only from the front panel power button, but from the remote, > >> too. So > >> I could turn off the music when I get into bed rather than have > >> to lean > >> up to the dash to shut things down. > >> > >> -- > >> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott > >> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, > >> Bend, Ore. > >> > >> On 09/01/2015 06:08 AM, Jim Felder wrote: > >> > About a month ago I wrote about having installed two pairs of USB > >> ports and > >> > an LED voltage display in my Vanagon. The round double outlet on > >> the dash > >> > took the place of my factory Eberspacher heater knob and the > >> > outlet-and-voltmeter combination set neatly into what was the > >> rear ashtray. > >> > > >> > That's when I noticed a drop in voltage that would flatten the > >> battery > >> > after a couple of days of being parked. Long story made very > >> short, I > >> > discovered that it was my radio in standby mode that was > >> draining the > >> > battery. I pulled the fuse to the radio on Saturday and this > >> morning the > >> > voltage is showing 12.9, exactly where it was when I pulled > >> the fuse. > >> > > >> > The reason that this was unknown to me all this time is that > >> coincident > >> > with the addition of the USB ports the Vanagon was, except for > >> use of my > >> > wife's Prius, my daily driver had been the Vanagon. When I got a > >> TDI Jetta > >> > the Vanagon started sitting for days or a week at a time, and > >> that's when > >> > the problem showed up. > >> > > >> > I could wire the radio to the switched 12v circuit that no doubt > >> came with > >> > it, but then I would have to have the key on to listen to > >> music while > >> > camping. Is anyone using a switch on the circuit, and if so how > >> was it done > >> > and how does it work out for you? > >> > > >> > Jim > >> > > >> >
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