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Subject:Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's counterintuitive.. (long post)
From:Chris Szpejankowski
Date:Thu, 10 Sep 2015 15:54:28 -0400

Ah, you mean an ACRONYM. 

NSU?

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Dnia 10 wrz 2015 o godz. 15:52 szpejankowski@gmail.com napisał(a):

> Name is just letters, not numbers? Hmm, that's tricky. Im familiar with DKW but their designs were front engine/front wheel drive in that time frame. 3 cylinder 2-stroke, some of them. 
> 
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> Dnia 8 wrz 2015 o godz. 23:25 SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> napisał(a):
> 
>> Too bad it's not Fridae.
>> There are two very good examples of small rear engine/rear radiator US
>> Model Cars..
>> Renault Dauphine for one ..which could not even sustain running with
>> adequate cooling at 70 mph on a highway on a warm day.
>> 
>> Another one ..great little car actually ...1959 Fiat 600D.
>> kind of hokey ...fan was belt driven ...mounted on a pedastal coming off
>> the side of the block ..
>> sucket air through engine cover louvers and blew it forward thru a small
>> radiator and out and down.
>> it worked fine though.
>> Belt tension adjustment was by shims, ala VW Bettle arrangment.
>> 
>> there have been a few exotics with rear radiators and I believe Formula
>> 1 cars use that arrangement.
>> 
>> OK...triva quiz ..
>> name a German  car that is rear engine air-cooled, inline 4,  OHC, from
>> the 60's.  Sideways mounted rear engine.
>> a hint ..
>> name is just letters.
>> 
>> but rear radiator/s in a Vanagon ..someone build one please ..with huge
>> rear side scoops !
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>>> On 9/8/2015 5:10 PM, James wrote:
>>> Ah yes, the argument for rear radiator(s) on a rear engined car, such as this:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_1000_MB
>>> 
>>> James
>>> Ottawa, ON
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 19:09:29 -1000
>>>> From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's              counterintuitive.. (long post)
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> 
>>>> it's a consequence of the vehicle design ..
>>>> I DO appreciate that the Vanagon is the last version of the original
>>>> concept ..
>>>> oppossed 4 cylinder aluminum rear mounted engine ..
>>>> that starts with the very very first VW Buses ...1954 or about there ..
>>>> and they evolved the design through 3 basic versions ( Spitty, Bay Bus,
>>>> and Vanagon ) .
>>>> I like that.
>>>> 
>>>> rear mounted radiator..or even twin rear mounted small radiators ...not
>>>> practical generally .
>>>> Though ...that would keep the major cooling system parts in one area..
>>>> and help the weight distribution ..which oddly, on a 2WD Vanagon is
>>>> about 55 % of the weight is on the front axle.
>>>> 
>>>> and generally ...a front-mounted radiator is the most easily-successful
>>>> arrangement, high air pressure there, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> And sure ...there are scads of cooling system parts ..one of the Charms
>>>> of water-cooled Vanagons let's say.
>>>>> On 9/6/2015 12:17 PM, PSD wrote:
>>>>> Yeah, not counter intuitive just over-complicated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:01 PM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's counterintuitive.. (long post)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wouldn't say it's counter-intuitive really ..
>>>