

| Subject: | Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's counterintuitive.. (long post) |
| From: | Pat Spragge/RFAN |
| Date: | Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:35:37 -0700 |
Looks like Chris got it https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/end-of-an-era-the-last-air-cooled-automobile-engines/ From: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Date: 09/10/2015 02:30 PM Subject: Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's counterintuitive.. (long post) Sent by: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> It's an acronym only if you pronounce it as a word ( like "scuba"), otherwise it's initials. Stephen mobile > On Sep 10, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Chris Szpejankowski <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > Ah, you mean an ACRONYM. > > NSU? > > Wys�ane z iPhone'a > > Dnia 10 wrz 2015 o godz. 15:52 szpejankowski@gmail.com napisa�(a): > >> Name is just letters, not numbers? Hmm, that's tricky. Im familiar with DKW but their designs were front engine/front wheel drive in that time frame. 3 cylinder 2-stroke, some of them. >> >> Wys�ane z iPhone'a >> >> Dnia 8 wrz 2015 o godz. 23:25 SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> napisa�(a): >> >>> Too bad it's not Fridae. >>> There are two very good examples of small rear engine/rear radiator US >>> Model Cars.. >>> Renault Dauphine for one ..which could not even sustain running with >>> adequate cooling at 70 mph on a highway on a warm day. >>> >>> Another one ..great little car actually ...1959 Fiat 600D. >>> kind of hokey ...fan was belt driven ...mounted on a pedastal coming off >>> the side of the block .. >>> sucket air through engine cover louvers and blew it forward thru a small >>> radiator and out and down. >>> it worked fine though. >>> Belt tension adjustment was by shims, ala VW Bettle arrangment. >>> >>> there have been a few exotics with rear radiators and I believe Formula >>> 1 cars use that arrangement. >>> >>> OK...triva quiz .. >>> name a German car that is rear engine air-cooled, inline 4, OHC, from >>> the 60's. Sideways mounted rear engine. >>> a hint .. >>> name is just letters. >>> >>> but rear radiator/s in a Vanagon ..someone build one please ..with huge >>> rear side scoops ! >>> >>> Scott >>> >>>> On 9/8/2015 5:10 PM, James wrote: >>>> Ah yes, the argument for rear radiator(s) on a rear engined car, such as this: >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_1000_MB >>>> >>>> James >>>> Ottawa, ON >>>> >>>> >>>>> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 19:09:29 -1000 >>>>> From: scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's counterintuitive.. (long post) >>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>> >>>>> it's a consequence of the vehicle design .. >>>>> I DO appreciate that the Vanagon is the last version of the original >>>>> concept .. >>>>> oppossed 4 cylinder aluminum rear mounted engine .. >>>>> that starts with the very very first VW Buses ...1954 or about there .. >>>>> and they evolved the design through 3 basic versions ( Spitty, Bay Bus, >>>>> and Vanagon ) . >>>>> I like that. >>>>> >>>>> rear mounted radiator..or even twin rear mounted small radiators ...not >>>>> practical generally . >>>>> Though ...that would keep the major cooling system parts in one area.. >>>>> and help the weight distribution ..which oddly, on a 2WD Vanagon is >>>>> about 55 % of the weight is on the front axle. >>>>> >>>>> and generally ...a front-mounted radiator is the most easily-successful >>>>> arrangement, high air pressure there, etc. >>>>> >>>>> And sure ...there are scads of cooling system parts ..one of the Charms >>>>> of water-cooled Vanagons let's say. >>>>>> On 9/6/2015 12:17 PM, PSD wrote: >>>>>> Yeah, not counter intuitive just over-complicated. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:01 PM >>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WetWesties] The Vanagon cooling system.. it's counterintuitive.. (long post) >>>>>> >>>>>> I wouldn't say it's counter-intuitive really .. >>>>
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