Hybrids contain much more electronics and of course the batteries, than
a typical liquid fuel vehicle, and the batteries do not last much more
than 5 yrs if cycled. Although now all cars have lots of electronics,
which adds to environmental concerns at end of life. Li batteries are
the big difference.
Diesels are about 20-30% more efficient than gas engines, overall. Once
emissions are handled - particulates & NOX, the difference narrows somewhat.
If the same diesels available worldwide were available in the US, there
would be considerable fuel savings. There are 1.2 - 1.6L turbo diesels
that do just fine, NA in the US.
just my 2c

On 9/19/2015 11:59 AM, Sudhir Desai wrote:
> Vs infernal combustion engines. :)
> On Sep 19, 2015 12:55 PM, <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Sudhir, can you document the claim that the "creation" of hybrids "causes
>> way more environmental damage"?  Than what, btw?  mcneely
>>
>> ---- Sudhir Desai <sudhir.desai@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> I dunno... the EPA likes hybrids even though their creation causes way
>>> more environmental damage. Just my $.02.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@mymts.net> wrote:
>>>> Sorry but I'll give the EPA the benefit of the doubt over VW here :)
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:22 AM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Vanagonitered
>>>>>
>>>>> It is my opinion this whole thing is politically motivated - either
>> VW was
>>>>> going to locate in Virginia or some other state and the deal went
>> awry or
>>>>> they decided to pull out of virginia or some other state and a
>> disgruntled
>>>>> some one or other got his buddy to fund the research and off to the
>> races
>>>>> to get a result -
>>>>> Next call EPA
>>>>> The chances that the largest car company in the world conspired to
>> cheat
>>>>> the EPA so they could sell vehicles in USA -
>>>>> Vanagon with out a sink and stove in Canada is called a station wagon
>> and
>>>>> it actually has something to do with chickens and a poultry import
>> export
>>>>> trade war
>>>>> Regards
>> --
>> David McNeely
>>
>>
>>