They probably are.

Jeff

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Jon VO <jondvo@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> OK then, ALL of the tested vehicles in the WV emissions test 18mo ago
> failed on NoX emissions. Only VW admits to having "cheated". Based on
> these results, why are not the other vehicle manufacturers being
> investigated?
> JonVO
>
>> On 9/25/2015 11:14 AM, Karl Ploessl wrote:
>> so we know that VW "cheated". But how was it done?
>>
>> CEO says to his underling: go and get the the diesel engine certified.
>> Underling goes to his/her underling and tells them get it done. And so on.
>> Diesel engineer knows that it can't be done and orders the programmers to
>> put in cheat code. So there must be lots of people involved who "knew", at
>> least programmers, engineer? Everybody is quiet, doesn't go home and tells
>> SO about the work? SO doesn't chat with neighbors....
>> Difficult to imagine that everybody kept a quiet lip... but has to be like
>> that?
>>
>> What other scenarios are possible?
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Richard Smith <richard_smith@gnwc.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Small to medium sized enterprises.
>>> --
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Sudhir Desai <sudhir.desai@GMAIL.COM<mailto:
>>> sudhir.desai@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>
>>> SME being ? (sorry, the only SME I know is a Subject Matter Expert)
>>>