

| Subject: | Re: Kickstarter: Pan American trip by two guys from Calfornia. |
| From: | Abel Longoria |
| Date: | Thu, 1 Oct 2015 20:24:39 -0500 |
People can give if they like or not... I wish I was in the position to travel to South America in my van but I'm not. So I like to see others that can do it for me! I donated and it's not a charity. I'm purchasing a DVD, a book and shirt. That's how I see it. It's not like you give and get nothing in return. My purchase is helping them make the trek I can't... I'll be living vicariously though their man instagram posts as if I'm along for the ride. If you don't want to help, you don't have to. Abel. On Oct 1, 2015 8:18 PM, "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > I have learned, 'the hard way' that, generally 'Charity is not Empowering' > . > So I don't do it much .. > since it doesn't seem to really energize and empower people.. > rather, they tend to expect handouts, like that's the normal way now. > > whole other subject of course, so wont' say much .. > I would say that 'younger people' tend to expect charity .. > I alxo think they gov offers way too much to way too many people ..thus > enslaving people to being semi-dysfunctional. > They encourage it even. > ( I know people on SSI that are no more depressed, or bipolar, or > physically in pain than I am. ) > Too political I know. > > Doesn't bother me that these guys are seeking crowdfunding...it's the > modern way. > I'm not particularity motivated to help pay for their project . > and so far, i don't get that it's particularly any different than > thousands of other long van trips, even documented ones. > Like what's new and different about this journey really ? > > but hey ..they are free to Ask all they want ! > > On 10/1/2015 2:46 PM, Dan N wrote: > >> Ben T... >> >> take it easy... generosity is wonderful trait.. I give often to charities >> and homeless people... >> >> I am sure most of you guys on this forum do that too... >> >> the thing is we don't get used to being ask edfor $$ without good cause... >> >> here are 2 examples... >> >> - asking funds for a trip... for recording gears and other post processing >> fees >> >> - my son get hit by a drunk driver 2 weeks ago.. he's OK, no injuries... >> now he need a car to go to work... I am rushing to fix my '85 tintop so I >> can give it to him... I don't ask or go to the internet asking for fun... >> >> which one has a good cause? >> >> thanks >> >>
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