

| Subject: | Re: Missing coolant |
| From: | SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) |
| Date: | Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:27:28 -1000 |
any cap or valve system has to do 2 1/2 things.. first....maintain pressure on the coolant, and release pressure if it gets too high. then, Have a 'suck-back' feature from the license plate / overflow bottle. just a one way valve won't do all that. I installed a Van Cafe- supplied all aluminum pressure tank with conventional 'american style' pressure cap. it was almost 100 % perfect in design and execution. Don't know if they still sell them, that was a few years ago. On 10/14/2015 7:25 AM, Eric Wunrow wrote: >> Yes, mine are from Meyle. >> >> Jim, your inline valve idea is great! >> >> Eric >> Eric Wunrow Pictures >> >> 303. 988. 8717 >> VW@EricWunrow.com >> >> >> <EW Email Sig.gif> >> >> On Oct 14, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >>> You are exactly right, the one-way feature on the valve is something I have >>> know VW shops to argue about. When I had a 2.1, I would test them before >>> leaving the parts place because so many of them didn't work out of the box. >>> The "good" ones didn't last long, either. I suspect you might be buying a >>> brand called "Meyle Germany" but that is just the brand name some company >>> bought, and they could be made absolutely anywhere. You might try the >>> dealers but good luck with that. >>> >>> One of these days, all vanagon drivers are going to be using that cap >>> simply as a connection to a one-way valve from a third party, inline >>> between the reservoir tank and the overflow tank. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:41 AM Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm a total rookie compared to you guys, but wanted to note I've had at >>>> least three expansion tank (blue) cap failures in 23,000, full-time miles >>>> over 26 months on the road. I believe the failures are somewhat related to >>>> how many heating/cooling cycles they're asked to do. >>>> >>>> I only buy the German ones, and my test is if you can both suck and blow >>>> on the cap, it's toast (please keep the jokes to yourself). >>>> >>>> My understanding is the cap should only release pressure one direction � >>>> not two. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> Eric Wunrow Pictures >>>> >>>> 303. 988. 8717 >>>> VW@EricWunrow.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Jim, the cap was replaced with an OEM cap when the water pump was >>>> done 13,000 miles ago, and the overflow tank doesn�t show any evidence of >>>> any spillage on or under it. I�m thinking small leaks too, but I�d like to >>>> narrow it down. The 2.1 has a lot more hoses than my 1.9! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stuart >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Jim Felder [mailto:jim.felder@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:21 PM >>>>> To: Stuart MacMillan; vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Missing coolant >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Old hoses leak microscopic amounts of coolant. Ive had it spray onto the >>>> engine in such small quantities that it would evaporate before you could >>>> see it. Tighten hoses, replace hoses is about all you can do. But you >>>> didn't mention testing the pressure cap. That can send a good deal of >>>> coolant into the expansion tank, which can drip on the road through the >>>> overflow and you won't know it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:11 PM Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Just when everything seems to be sorted out, it isn't. Son's '87 is >>>> losing >>>>> over a quart of coolant every 400 miles, and I can't find any leaks. >>>> Rear >>>>> heater has been removed, and there is no odor from the front heater. No >>>>> drips anywhere-engine plumbing, heads, transmission cooler, radiator, or >>>>> front heater valve. No evidence of coolant mixing with either the >>>>> transmission fluid or engine oil, and that much coolant would certainly >>>> foam >>>>> oil. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm wondering if it's burning coolant, but in my experience failed >>>> sealing >>>>> rings in Vanagons lead to over pressurization of the system, and that's >>>> not >>>>> happening. It also runs great. I sometimes notice a faint smell of >>>> burning >>>>> coolant at the engine compartment vents, but I can't find anything >>>> dripping >>>>> on the exhaust when the system is pressurized. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Would investing in a UV leak detection kit tell me anything? It would >>>> seem >>>>> losing this much coolant would show up somewhere. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stuart >>>>>
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