

| Subject: | Re: Help me diagnose and fix no brake lights |
| From: | SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) |
| Date: | Fri, 9 Oct 2015 12:49:35 -1000 |
it was amazingly difficult to google " DIN wiring standards' or whatever I put. in all of 1.06 seconds this pops up .. http://www.bosch-automotive-tradition.com/media/en/automotive_tradition_1/teile_1/switches/downloads_3/klemmenbezeichnungen.pdf you maybe no have google ???? you could/should search yourself some ...about half a dozen interesting things popped up ...all related to this topic. More than that even. S. On 10/9/2015 12:26 PM, Jim Felder wrote: > Let us know if you find that list. > > Jim > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:25 PM SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com <mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com>> wrote: > > that reminds me .. > somewhere I found, online, a whole list of 'DIN' standards for > wiring diagram symbols and such. > > this list also tells what numbers are used in terminal naming ..1 > is always ground, > 15 is always key on power, etc. Very useful list. > > also that the very beginning of the electrical section of Bentley > I think there's a list of symbols. > > > On 10/9/2015 11:40 AM, Jim Felder wrote: >> Regarding scott's observation that it takes more pressure on the pedal than >> you think to operate the brake lights—I cut a 3/4 inch dowel that jams very >> tightly between the underside lower steering wheel and the brake pedal. >> It's there when you want it, not when you don't, and it puts considerable >> pressure on the system. Five minutes on full down is plenty enough to see >> if your connections are weeping brake fluid, another benefit. >> >> Also Scott's observation that the Bentley diagrams require a lot of study, >> that's true too. You need it right there as you look and look and look. It >> would help to know what all the symbols are, maybe that's in there but I >> didn't find it but ended up figuring it out. >> >> That 4-pin connector that red-black goes through that goes through the >> firewall--it has four wires coming in and its mate going to the under dash >> harness only has three wires. Go figure why they dead-ended that one wire. >> >> Jim >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:12 PM vw_van_fan_Mark<madvws@cox.net> <mailto:madvws@cox.net> wrote: >> >>> Only 80-84 vans have the brake failure warning setup. These use 3 wire >>> switches to supply the signals to the dash warning module and the rear >>> brake lights. 85-91 vans use 2 wire switches, only for the rear brake >>> lights. >>> >>> For some reason new switch quality seems low and the supply of new 2 >>> wire switches is even lower. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) wrote: >>>> re this brake warning light module K ... >>>> ................. >>>> >>>> Obviously the swtiches , one or both I imagine, turn on the brake lights. >>>> the 'other function ' is for a legally required brake failure warning >>> light >>>> in this system I'm pretty sure that if there is a significant difference >>>> in pressures between the two circuits >>>> ( like say a rear wheel cylinder is leaking badly ) .. >>>> the two brake light switches tell this info to the module .. >>>> the module sees 'no pressure in one side' compared to the other >>>> circuit. thus turning on the warning light . >>>> >>>> >
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