check out: https://theclaw.com/products/c-101-earth-anchoring-system/

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Edward V Barger <edvbarger@mac.com> wrote:

> do you have photos to show what the part the goes into the ground / sand
> looks like
>
> will it work in sand   pull out too easy  ?? will it work in hard desert
> soil   can you screw it in to hard stuff ??
>
> thanks ed
>
> Edward V Barger
> edvbarger@mac.com
>
>
>
> > On Nov 17, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Jim Hildt <jim@CHNWMD.COM> wrote:
> >
> > Listening in, and the post for an improvement to the tie down anchors,
> required in the northwest, is on my shopping list.
> > http://fanchers.com/283/The%20Claw.htm
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Dennis Jowell
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:53 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: A Westy awning (UPDATE)
> >
> > Thank you all for your thoughts and experiences on my Fiamma awning
> question. Great information.
> > After weighing all of your information I decided to purchase the Fiamma
> for the Westy:
> > 1) 10' pearl gray Fiamma awning from Van Cafe
> > 2) 3 brackets come with it
> > 3) bolt the Fiamma centered to the rain gutter
> > 4) if needed purchase GOWESTY frame screws to hold unit brackets to
> Westy better
> > 5) tie down unit with some type of straps to the ground when open in
> case of bad wind/ rain
> > 6) always tilt the awning in the rain and do it more then I think it
> should. (Thanks Loren for that one)
> > 7) use my existing Bus Depot awning as a separate stand alone shelter. I
> bought the 2 extra poles from Ron at Bus Depot a few years ago. Love our
> Bus Depot awning!
> >
> > Hope this helps for those who may be thinking about the same journey
> Laters, Dennis
> >
> > Dennis Jowell
> > Scotch Hollow Farm
> > Newbury, Vermont
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Loren Busch <starwagen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is little option for where the brackets are placed.  Moving the
> awning back and forth would require drilling of the awning case again the
> same as in any initial install, the awning case is bolted to the brackets.
> Given that yes, the awning could be re-positioned if you didn't like where
> it was mounted.
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Loren,
> >>> If I just use the bolt on brackets ( I'll order 3 when place an order)
> I'll be able to reposition the Fiamma if needed?
> >>>
> >>> Dennis Jowell
> >>> Scotch Hollow Farm
> >>> Newbury, Vermont
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Loren Busch <starwagen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ​RE: Mounting a Fiamma
> >>>> My 10' Fiamma has been mounted without the bolts to the body of the
> >>>> van for well over 10 years.  And 100,000 miles.  I used two mounting
> >>>> brackets for many years but added a third about three years ago.
> >>>> And have had no problems with not having the brackets bolted to the
> >>>> body.  BUT I have thought about doing that even though the three
> >>>> bracket setup is solid.  YMMV
> >>
>