

| Subject: | Re: Dreaded water jacket head gasket leak strikes |
| From: | Jim Felder |
| Date: | Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:50:51 -0600 |
Dennis is right, using a slide hammer will damage the bearing material. I used hardwood wedges made for the purpose to transfer the shock of the hammer to the coolant housing. Jim On Monday, December 21, 2015, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > A slide hammer to pull the piston pins out is not a good idea for the > rod/rod bearings. You want to make a tool that fits in the hole for coolant > pipe/water pump that can rest on the piston with in inner diameter and > length that can take the pin. Then you can use the threaded rod, nuts and > washer to gently pull the pin out. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Jim Felder > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 4:17 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <javascript:;> > Subject: Re: Dreaded water jacket head gasket leak strikes > > Oh by the way you have to rotate the piston until the pin lines up with > the hole in the outer water jacket that's there for a bolt on cooling pipe. > I know this is sounding like fun already. > > Jim > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:15 PM Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > Fortunately for me, I was able to use a washer-and-threaded-rod setup > > I had made up for water boxers when another 2.1 was out of the car. I > > used this with a slide puller. It was a horrible job and I have been > > involved with some horrible jobs. It was the worst ever! If the head > > comes right off, you're fine. You might as well try it before hauling > > to a shop, or at least pulling it so you can get it into a stand. You > > won't have to crack the case, but you have to be able to get to it and > > that's limited enough with the engine in the stand. > > > > Jim > > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:21 PM Stuart MacMillan > > <stuartmacm@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > > >> Yeah, how did you do that? The Bentley shows sleeve is installed over > >> the piston, then the assembly is inserted over the rod and the pin > >> and clip inserted. I've had problems getting piston pins out of > >> different engines, and I don't have those VW tools. They even have a > >> reamer for removing burrs on the piston to get that pin out. > >> > >> At that point I'd likely have to have the whole mess towed to a shop. > >> I may just do that now. > >> > >> Stuart > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > <javascript:;>] On > >> Behalf Of Alistair Bel > >> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 12:08 PM > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <javascript:;> > >> Subject: Re: Dreaded water jacket head gasket leak strikes > >> > >> I pulled the cylinders and put in the new o rings ( I had the gasket > set). > >> Then I had the fun of compressing rings etc. > >> > >> Alistair > >> > >> > On Dec 20, 2015, at 11:32 AM, J Stewart <fonman4277@comcast.net > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > > >> > I had the same, one sleeve was really stuck to the head, and pulled > >> > out > >> about an inch. Several folks told me when that happens you MUST > >> replace the black O ring at it's base. Others said don't bother. > >> Problem was, both these opinions came from respected sources! > >> Supposedly it is possible to replace that O ring without pulling the > >> sleeve off the piston, but I'll be damned if I could figure out how > >> to do it. I chose not to replace the O ring, and had no > >> problems-again, only in 5,000 miles. > >> > > >> > Oh, one other thing. I had a dickens of a time getting the head off > >> > the > >> cylinders on one side. It was really stuck and I think I ended up > >> pulling the cylinders from that side. > >> > > >> > Alistair > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Dec 20, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Alistair Bel <albell@SHAW.CA > <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I did a quick and dirty head job a couple of years ago. Before I > >> > > did > >> it > >> I tried the Subie stop leak and it did help a bit. > >> > > > >> > > I had a couple of spare used heads and I think I swapped in one > >> > > when I > >> found a crack between the valves on June of the heads I took off. > >> > > > >> > > There was some pitting on the heads and I filled that with jb > >> > > weld. I > >> used "Right Stuff" sealant on the big rubber seal. Seems to have > >> worked out well, no leaks after two years. I was supposed to be > >> putting in a different engine and this was just a fix until then. > >> Still haven't put in a new engine. > >> > > > >> > > Anyway, pics of the jb weld part here > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> https://shufti.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/vanagon-quick-and-dirty-head- > >> recondi > >> tioning/ > >> <https://shufti.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/vanagon-quick-and-dirty-head > >> -reconditioning/> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Alistair > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> On Dec 20, 2015, at 9:54 AM, J Stewart <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET > <javascript:;>> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> I had no luck with the Suby conditioner, but then my gasket was > >> torn. I > >> also paid a lot less than the $30.00 this Amazon ad claims is the > >> list price, as I recall at the local Subaru dealer it was $2.50 a > >> bottle. The FIRST head gasket replacement on mine lasted 300 > >> miles-yes, I said the first. I was not happy that at 300 miles I > >> developed another leak, this time around one of the head nuts. I was > >> told by a couple of respected VW gurus that re-using a head may not > >> work, as cracks can happen around the head stud passages. I purchased > >> a "used" head from Go Westy for $350.00. They said it was used with > >> very low mileage but it sure looked brand new to me. The second head > >> gasket/head replacement went a LOT faster than the first one, lol. > >> That repair lasted at least 5K miles. I say at least because I then > >> sold the van. As far as I know it is still going strong. Jeff > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> > >> > >>> for now you may try this Subaru coolant conditioner > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> http://www.amazon.com/Subaru-SOA635071-Coolant-System-Conditioner/dp/ > >> B00IGZP > >> > >> 2UE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450574144&sr=8-1&keywords=subaru+coolant+ > >> conditi > >> <http://www.amazon.com/Subaru-SOA635071-Coolant-System-Conditioner/dp > >> /B00IGZP2UE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450574144&sr=8-1&keywords=subaru+ > >> coolant+conditi> > >> oner > >> > >> > >> > >>> it's working well on my son's Jeep.. loss of coolant but no > >> > >>> leak > >> (internal > >> > >>> leak) > >> > > >> > > >
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