

| Subject: | Re: New engine won't turn - 2.1 WBX |
| From: | Raymond Markett |
| Date: | Thu, 31 Dec 2015 16:52:31 -0800 |
Hi, This is along the same line as some other suggestions: How about pulling the valve covers, turning the engine by hand forward and backward, and observing which valves move. That should help to narrow any sticking valve. First I would make sure you can get TDC to rule out any cam and crank misalignment. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2015, at 4:27 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > Will do all that. For some, there seems to be a little confusion. > > This is a brand new overhaul. All new parts except for crank and case, > which miked out well within spec. It has never even off the buildup bench. > Still isn't. Pulling it thru by hand with the heads of, it turns fine. > Free. Put the heads on fully torgued ready for installation in the van, it > won't turn. > > This has got to be a head problem and a valve problem at that. The AMC > valves that came with it were replaced with TRW valves. Seats retouched for > three faces, valves snd seats hand lapped together. There shouldn't be any > thing wrong, but there is. Still hunting for a solution. > > Will test Scott's way! > > John > On Dec 31, 2015 15:45, "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" < > scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > >> super easy to check for a valve stuck in a guide. >> heck... >> a simple test, head on the bench, tap each valve stem top with a hammer. >> if it bounces back from spring operation ...valve is not stuck in guide. >> >> on the engine ..use a prybar of some sort to make sure each valve moves >> in its guide properly. >> >> besides.. >> one *always* *always* checks the smoothe operation and movement of ALL >> components every step of the way, at every opportunity. >> >> flywheel shims and bits there are good to consider of course. >> Scott >> >>> On 12/31/2015 6:41 AM, OlRivrRat wrote: >>> >>> Only Problem with Those Theories is that he said it Turns Fine >>> Without the Heads on ~ >>> >>> John >>> >>> Did you try to see if it would Turn Backwards @ all With Heads >>> on ~ >>> >>> >>> On 31 Dec , 2015, at 6:31 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) wrote: >>> >>> I think Darrell is pointing you in the right direction. There is the >>>> thrust washer that can easily drop out of place when you install the >>>> flywheel. Or you miscalculated the thickness of the endplay shims as >>>> Darrell suggested. Either of those happen way more often than a messed >>>> up >>>> valve in a brand new AMC head (never). >>>> >>>> Ken >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Darrell Boehler <midwesty@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It is easy to add not enough shim thickness on the crankshaft. >>>>> Check the crankshaft for end play. Loosen the Flywheel /torque >>>>> converter plate >>>>> then see if it turns then. Been there done that. When testing for >>>>> crankshaft >>>>> shim thickness it is easy to add not enough shims because we don't >>>>> tighten the >>>>> the flywheel fully during testing / adjusting. >>>>> Best of luck with your projekt >>>>> Midwesty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/31/2015 4:30 AM, John Rodgers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Engine turns beautifully by hand on the bench. Put the new AMC hesds on >>>>>> with all parts assembled, torque them down, and the beenengine won't >>>>>> turn. >>>>>> >>>>>> Removed the heads twice, still no joy. Sounds like a valve stuck in a >>>>>> guide >>>>>> to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any body else ever had this problem or got an educated opinion? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>> -- >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ken Wilford >>>> John 3:16 >>>> www.vanagain.com >>>
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