

| Subject: | Re: Warming the oil in cold weather? math off- bad typing! |
| From: | Dave Mcneely |
| Date: | Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:29:52 -0600 |
the original temperature referenced was negative 18 C. That converts to negative 0.4 F, which is close enough to 0 F for purposes of this discussion. ---- Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: > That should have been -18C. > Sorry > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl Wolz [mailto:wolzphoto@q.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 1:32 PM > To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > Subject: Re: Warming the oil in cold weather? > > I think your math is off, since o > 0C = 32F, or freezing. > > Karl Wolz > Sent from my electronic umbilicus > > > On Jan 3, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > wrote: > > > > If I did the math right 18C is about 0F. That choice of oil is OK but the > slow cranking-ignition is a sign of something not quite right. I would check > the battery voltage while cranking and if possible the starter current draw. > > > > > As for that lamp affecting your electric bill even on Long Island we pay > >$.20 per kilowatt hour. I'm sure your rate is somewhat less. 500W is .5kwh > so even at our rates that is $.10 per hour. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > > Behalf Of Robert Fisher > > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 11:09 AM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Warming the oil in cold weather? > > > > Now that I live in eastern Canada, I run the 5W50 (used to run 20W50 in > the Cali desert). I've started my '87 GL (2.1; auto) several times in as low > as -16C and haven't had any issues other than the expected slow cranking / > slow ignition - and that with the cold start valve disconnected. I try not > to drive the van in winter due to the salt, etc., but I haven't done > anything special to the engine or battery (other than topping off the charge > now and again), and it's performed normally under those conditions. > > YMMV. > > > > My Canadian Chevy daily driver has the obligatory block heater with a -18C > thermostat/cutoff in it; that -18C seems to be the standard point of > concern, if you will, for these parts. I haven't, and wouldn't, attempt to > start either vehicle at or below those temps without some sort of heat > intervention first. > > > > FWIW, I used to put a 500W Halogen lamp, pointed up, under my diesel-fired > pressure washer in the hour before I needed to use it on those odd nights > when the temps were low enough to cause me concern. It worked a peach, even > if it was a little hard on the electric bill. > > > > Robert > > > >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 4:43 AM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@q.com> wrote: > >> > >> Had a teacher way back in high school tell the class to never buy a > >> truck from "up on the Rez", because they commonly would park their > >> trucks against the house and run it all night with the heater going > >> full blast to provide warmth inside the house. > >> > >> Karl Wolz > >> Sent from my electronic umbilicus > >> > >>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 11:59 PM, Mark Tuovinen <aksyncronaut@GMAIL.COM> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Last but not least and used for decades in some parts of Alaska and > >>> other cold climates best left to creatures other than human you can > >>> always get > >> it > >>> started and leave it running until Spring arrives. i don't > >>> recommend > >> this > >>> option especially with a Vanagon but it does work. It is also why > >>> used trucks from the North Slope are a bad investment, way too much > >>> idling for their low mileage. Years ago I worked in the Parts Dept > >>> of a Ford dealership and we sold reman. engines like they were > >>> popcorn to the > >> Slope. > >>> > >>> Mark in AK > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Rocket J Squirrel < > >> camping.elliott@gmail.com > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 01/02/2016 02:35 PM, Richard Smith wrote: > >>>> > >>>> All of our vehicles had block heaters. The vws had a circular thing > >>>>> under the centre of the crankcase. They also had a "battery blanket" > >>>>> to keep the battery warm. Vanagons have no space for those, but > >>>>> they were essential back in the day. > >>>> > >>>> Seems like there'd be enough space for something like this: > >>>> > >>>> < > >> http://www.autozone.com/1/products/18125-battery-pad-heater-22400-kat > >> s > >> -heaters-22400.html > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott > >>>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans, > >>>> Bend, Ore. > > > > > > > > -- > > Cya, > > Robert > > > > '87 2.1/Auto GL -- David McNeely
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