

| Subject: | Re: Expansion tank under pressure when cold? |
| From: | Michael McSwain |
| Date: | Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:37:24 +0000 |
I took the dash out not too long ago to replace the blower. It really wouldn't be such a bad job if not for the aftermarket AC stuffed in there. That definitely made it a challenge getting back together. On Thu, Feb 18, 2016, 12:28 PM thewestyman <zolo@foxinternet.net> wrote: > Often the heater core itself is faulty. > Zoltan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael McSwain > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 9:12 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Expansion tank under pressure when cold? > > Well I was able to open the expansion tank this morning without overflow. > My parking spot is on an ever so slight incline and I guess it was enough > that I needed to back it in to put the back end on the high side. > > I tried pumping about 8psi into the expansion tank and immediately found > some bubbles coming out of the top hose of the H pipe. Put on a new hose > clamp and snugged it up and that seems ok now. Also found the rear heater > core valve to be leaking. Put a Home Depot ball valve in just before the > old valve and left it closed. As I'm writing this however I'm thinking that > the old valve still needs to be replaced. Would the return side of the > rear heater core still have pressure with the valve closed or would there > be suction? Either way it will either be pushing coolant out or sucking air > in. I guess another ball valve on the return line would work. > > Still smell a little antifreeze in the cab though so I'm guessing I have a > problem with or near the front heater core. > > Can't tell you how much I appreciate this community. I would never have > sold my Canadian model 85 Wolfsburg Westy in 1999 if I had access to so > many knowledgeable folks willing to share their experience. > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016, 11:12 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > Using the emissions sniffer or even test solutions to look for > > hydrocarbons in the coolant is really limited. The leak has to be so bad > > that you also have a combustion failure. No combustion issues you should > > have no unburned hydro carbons. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > > Of Stuart MacMillan > > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:03 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Expansion tank under pressure when cold? > > > > Bentley says apply 14.5 psi for leak testing (p. 19.17), and cap opens at > > 13 to 17 psi (p. 19.18). I use my Motive Products pressure brake > bleeder, > > but anything with a gauge will work, just connect a hose to the cap. Put > > a > > large piece of clean cardboard under the engine and look for drips > > immediately as well as overnight (system should hold pressure for several > > hours). If you are smelling coolant, it could be the rubber head gaskets > > leaking, but that would not lead to a pressurized tank. > > > > An emissions sniffer can detect combustion gasses in the cooling system, > > but for that to work there has to be considerable air space in the > > pressure > > tank, and the probe inserted quickly after opening the cap. Not so easy, > > and the shop is not going to want to contaminate their probe with > coolant. > > > > Also, it's worth taking the cover off the rear heater and pulling out the > > core. I'll bet it's leaking if it's original. > > > > You’ve got air in the system, hopefully it's not from combustion gasses. > > > > Stuart > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > > Of Michael McSwain > > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:14 AM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Expansion tank under pressure when cold? > > > > Any easy way to test for combustion gasses getting into the coolant? > > > > Loose or cracked heads would produce a leak or weeping from the head area > > I assume? > > > > Radiator should be easy enough to check for leaks, but heater core not so > > much. > > > > I've tried taking the expansion tank cap off after letting the van sit > > overnight and it still overflows when removed. Where I park it is > slightly > > inclined with the front end up, but not much. I'll try parking it front > > down tonight and try removing it again tomorrow morning. > > > > Is applying 10 or so psi of pressure to the expansion tank and looking > for > > pressure drop and leaks a bad idea? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I think it depends on how long you let the engine rest after you shut > > > it down. There always some residual pressure in the cooling system and > > > it will come near zero if you wait long enough... I let it sit > > > overnight. My mechanic revs the engine up to bring the level down, add > > > the coolant and put on the cap presto.. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > m. > > > >
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