It also runs leaner and cooler than straight gasoline.  In a carbureted engine, running alcohol you have to almost double the size of the jets to get the mixture correct.

GregM

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of John Rodgers
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 1:15 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Ethanol Free Gas.. No fuel pump buzzing?

My understanding about the alcohol in fuel, is, that except for the enviromental factor (and that's questionable) gasohol is a rip. It simply doesn't have the btu's that gasoline has. So by adding alcohol to gasoline you get a power reduction, yet you still pay the same price. I know the corn subsidy to the farmers has to be factored in somehow. Thats a hit on our taxes.

Anybody got more?

John
On Feb 26, 2016 13:02, "Tyler Hardison" <tyler@seraph-net.net> wrote:

> That's why I'm confused. I did nothing else to the fuel pump other 
> than fill up with Corn Likker free.
>
> The Butler Market Valero here in Bend carries it. Perhaps other 
> Bendites know of a cheaper spot?
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, David McNeely 
> <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Where are you that non-alcoholic fuel costs that much?  I generally 
> > get
> it
> > for about 10 cents per gallon above the equivalent grade for alcoholic.
> > Currently locally (Spokane, WA) that amounts to $1.90 for 
> > non-alcoholic regular.  But, I have to drive several miles across 
> > town, and have been burning regular alcoholic that I buy for $1.75 
> > from an outlet owned by
> the
> > Spokane Tribe.  When I lived in Oklahoma non-alcoholic was widely 
> > available, but not here.  I get better mileage with non-alcoholic in 
> > my Prius, but haven't been able to make an adequate comparison with 
> > the camper, since my driving conditions with it vary so much from 
> > trip to trip.  I believe it does better, however.
> >
> > How would the alcoholic stuff damage the fuel pump?  I understand 
> > its damaging fuel lines and connectors.  Are the pump innards plastic?
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Tyler Hardison 
> > <tyler@seraph-net.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yesterday I filled the tank with Ethanol Free gas (3.99/gal ouch) 
> >> to experiment.
> >>
> >> Observations:
> >>
> >> 1. Van is running a bit smoother.
> >> 2. She's got a little more pep.
> >> 3. The most puzzling thing: The fuel pump stopped buzzing.
> >>
> >> Is it possible that E10 is damaging our fuel pumps?
> >>
> >> --t
> >>
> >
> >
>