

| Subject: | Re: And what should arrive in my inbox this morning from Banggood but this magnetic offer |
| From: | Jim Felder |
| Date: | Wed, 13 Apr 2016 19:25:33 +0000 |
After finally resorting to wood glue to affix my interior covering permanently to my interior, I would never again trust a sticky adhesive 100%. In thread we trust. : ) Jim On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 2:17 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Maybe you could do the whole thing without any sewing at all? > > Consider laying the duct tape/magnet sandwich strip adjacent to the fabric > edge. Add a 3rd strip of duct tape to form a lap joint over the two > pieces. Then flip over the assembly, and add a 4th strip of duct tape; use > a roller or rub/squeeze with fingers in an attempt to get some of the 3rd > and 4th strip to adhere to each other even slightly through the mesh of the > fabric. > > If you desired additional stiffness, a strip of box strapping could be > laid down before adding the lap joint pieces. > > Duct tape, at least the good stuff, is pretty aggressive in it's bond > strength to clean materials. > > Seems of course that you should try whatever method you use on a 1 foot > trial piece to get the hang of it. > > Rich > San Diego > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> > *To:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:57 AM > > *Subject:* Re: And what should arrive in my inbox this morning from > Banggood but this magnetic offer > > I will probably try this as well, it is a good idea. These magnets are so > small that you could probably fold a piece of duct tape in half. Two > things: 1, you don't want to sew through duct tape or any other adhesive > very far as you will spend way more time cleaning your machine and fixing > the thread and sewing as the adhesive accumulates on the needle and goes > under the cloth to the bobbin. Ask me how I know. > > Secondly, the duct tape may not (or may) have enough stiffness to do the > job. Even it it didn't by itself, you could probably sew a piece of box > strapping in behind the duct tape and magnets to give it a little spring. > Which, for all I know at this point, it may not really need. > > Jim > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:51 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > > As you were describing your design, an idea popped into my head: > > > > You could lay down a strip of 2" wide duct tape, sticky side up, but > stuck > > down on tabletop at the ends with additional tape. Place the magnets in > a > > row at 1" spacing....hopefully the adhesion to the duct tape will keep > them > > from jumping over to each other. When all magnets are installed, place a > > second strip of duct tape sticky side down over the first piece of duct > > tape, thus capturing each magnet in it's own little compartment. A > > sandwich. Then trim the assembly to maybe 1" wide so it's nice and neat. > > Now this assembly can be laid into the hem of fabric and the stitching > goes > > through the edges of the duct tape sandwich. > > > > The duct tape sandwich assembly should give a little rigidity yet at the > > same time provide flexibility so that the fabric can be rolled up or > folded. > > > > Just an idea. > > > > Rich > > San Diego > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> > > *To:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:35 AM > > *Subject:* Re: And what should arrive in my inbox this morning from > > > Banggood but this magnetic offer > > > > Here's what I have in mind, subject to change as other parties actually > > think this through for me: > > > > 1. it is going to take a bunch of these little magnets, but that is what > I > > want, their power times hundreds. > > > > 2. The magnets must be separate somehow. If they touch or clump, even > after > > being sewn in to individual pockets of cloth, that will not keep the > cloth > > from doubling over and over as the magnets find each other. Therefore, > > > > 3. I intend to glue the magnets down with hot glue, say, to a flexible > > strip of plastic, some strapping tape, say, about an inch apart. > > > > 4. I will wrap the flexible but very strong magnetic strip in cloth and > sew > > it closed with a zipper foot, allowing enough left over to sew this strip > > to the usual vinyl edging into which the screen is sewn. It is a plus > that > > the magnets are small enough to pass under a sewing foot if they have to. > > > > 5. I am contemplating different approaches to an entryway, I guess two > > pieces with an overlap in the middle will do for a first pass. > > > > Jim > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM Steve Williams < > > steve@williamsitconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > Oh my heck! > > > > > > I don't have the patience to work with something THAT small... that > > > wants to stick to anything metal! lol. > > > > > > Good to know they are out there though :) > > > > > > Thanks for sharing! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Steve W. > > > > > > On 13/04/2016 10:35 AM, Karl Ploessl wrote: > > > > if the description is correct, they are tiny: Diameter: 3mm(±0.1mm) > > > > Height: 1mm(±0.1mm). So 500 seems to be right > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Steve Williams > > > > <steve@williamsitconsulting.com > > > > <mailto:steve@williamsitconsulting.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Is that price $4.00 USD for 500 of them? That doesn't make sense > to > > > > me... but $4.00 / magnet seems expensive, but perhaps not? > > > > > > > > How many do you think it will take for the bug screen? This is > > > > something I'm really interested in doing as well. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steve W. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13/04/2016 9:26 AM, Jim Felder wrote: > > > > > > > > A way to follow up something I have wanted to do for years, > > > > create an > > > > all-magnetic bug screen for the sliding door. These aggressive > > > > little > > > > magnets ought to do the job! Anyway, the price is right and > > > > they are on > > > > order. Once glued to a flexible plastic tape/strap (so they > > > > won't stick to > > > > each other) and sewn into edging for the netting, I'll bet > > > > they will work. > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > http://www.banggood.com/500x-Disc-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-Super-Strong-Fridge-Magnets-N35-3x1m-Craft-Model-p-1042903.html?utm_design=41&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_mailad233_dealalert&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=Winna≻_src=email_1791754≻_eh=21b49b9fb0df57d91≻_llid=631316≻_lid=80505949≻_uid=GEFGGfoQpi&emst=GEFGGfoQpi_631316_1791754_128 > > < > http://www.banggood.com/500x-Disc-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-Super-Strong-Fridge-Magnets-N35-3x1m-Craft-Model-p-1042903.html?utm_design=41&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_mailad233_dealalert&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=Winna≻_src=email_1791754≻_eh=21b49b9fb0df57d91≻_llid=631316≻_lid=80505949≻_uid=GEFGGfoQpi&emst=GEFGGfoQpi_631316_1791754_128 > <http://www.banggood.com/500x-Disc-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-Super-Strong-Fridge-Magnets-N35-3x1m-Craft-Model-p-1042903.html?utm_design=41&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_mailad233_dealalert&utm_campaign=newsletter-emarsys&utm_content=Winna&sc_src=email_1791754&sc_eh=21b49b9fb0df57d91&sc_llid=631316&sc_lid=80505949&sc_uid=GEFGGfoQpi&emst=GEFGGfoQpi_631316_1791754_128> > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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