

| Subject: | Re: striking caution by dennis |
| From: | Angus Gordon |
| Date: | Sun, 8 May 2016 14:03:12 -0700 |
My barn is unheated too. Angus > On May 8, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Alistair Bel <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Toques multiply in my barn > > Alistair > > > >> On May 8, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Angus Gordon <birdworks@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> I have an eight foot torque multiplier in my barn... >> >> Angus >> >>> On May 8, 2016, at 9:46 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote: >>> >>> I've occasionally wondered why one of our Van'Fam' Fabricators (Alistair or ?) hasn't come up with a >>> >>> Torque Multiplier Tool, Or an A Mod to the Old one for the Bug, that will work on a Vanagon ~ >>> >>> >>>> On 8 May , 2016, at 10:05 AM, John Rodgers wrote: >>>> >>>> Any time you are tryingbto remove a large nut - heck, even some smaller nut >>>> or bolts - some extra precautions are in order. Dennis covered his pretty >>>> well. For myself, if I can get at it, throw a rag over the work. You can >>>> never tell when a piece of shrapnel will come flying off. >>>> >>>> As for large bolts or nuts such as the axle nut they really ought to be >>>> covered. In industry such items can be huge an subject to enormous torque. >>>> When I worked in the aviation industry, (I'm old enough now to feel like >>>> the first mechanic to work on the Wright Brothers flying machine) we used >>>> what was called a Sweeney Wrench to tighten and loosen the nut that held >>>> four blade propellers on the shaft. Some of those went to 2400 foot lbs. >>>> The Sweeny could deliver, as it was a geared, chain drive apparatus with >>>> splines inside to hold onto the shaft while it turned that nut up to torque >>>> - or loosened it. Sometimes I think we need one of those when it comes to >>>> having to deal with the nut and stub axle on our Vanagons. There's no way >>>> that nut won't turn with a Sweeny!! >>>> >>>> John >>>>> On May 8, 2016 10:06, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Depending on where the jack stands were placed the weight behind them is >>>>> already trying to lift the front off the ground. It is normal for a >>>>> threaded fastener assembly to require much more torque to loosen then >>>>> applied for tightening, that is part of how they work. Tension and >>>>> friction. Rust and corrosion can make things worse. Normally, the brakes >>>>> can be serviced without removing the hub. It only needs to be removed if >>>>> servicing the wheel bearings or replacing the backing plate. >>>>> >>>>> Dennis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >>>>> Of Don Hanson >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 9:22 AM >>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>> Subject: Re: striking caution by dennis >>>>> >>>>> Incredibly, when I was once trying to remove the axle nut from my 84, >>>>> after getting it all up on jackstands, etc..... >>>>> >>>>> ....I got a really long cheater bar and put it onto my 3/4" drive >>>>> breaker bar, after locking the wheel with the Ebrake. I put my own full >>>>> body weight (165lbs) on the end of the bar...nuthin... Asked two of my >>>>> friends to get on that bar with me....We lifted the front of the vanagon >>>>> off the ground, and still didn't get that nut to budge...Bouncing on that >>>>> breaker bar with three guys standing on it....the front wheels just bounced >>>>> up and down....finally cut it off >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 6:12 AM, mike riley <mkriley1@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You can.t have too many warnings about flying debris! I had to undergo >>>>>> eye surgery to remove a piece of steel from my cornea acquired in a >>>>>> industrial setting with safety glasses, gogeles, and a face shield on. >>>>>> The best way is no impact at all. Take the cotter pins out and have a >>>>>> socket and breaker bar. Put it on the passnger side twards the front >>>>>> with the handle on the ground. Start the engine and slip the clutch in >>>>>> first gear. It will come off. Alternatively cut the nut off it is >>>>>> false economy to reuse it as the threads are most likely >>>>>> distorted.Mike >
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