

| Subject: | Re: hankook ra-08 copies |
| From: | Jim Arnott |
| Date: | Sun, 8 May 2016 15:52:00 -0700 |
185/70R14 & 195/70R14 are not the proper SIZE. Look at the 205/70R14 98H XL which IS the correct size and load range. Vanagon & Camper 1984-1991 185R14C 6PR - Min Load Index 99 - Max Load 1710 lbs - Min Load Range C - Max Inflation 55 psi *205/70R14 97R - Min Load Index 97 - Max Load 1580 lbs - Max Inflation 40 psi * Reinforced Sidewall Passenger car tire Syncro Vanagon & Camper 1986-1991 185R14C 6PR - Min Load Index 99 - Max Load 1710 lbs - Min Load Range C - Max Inflation 55psi 205R14C 6PR/8PR - Min Load Index 109 - Max Load 2270 lbs - Min Load Range D - Max Inflation 65psi *205/70R14 97R - Min Load Index 97 - Max Load 1580 lbs - Max Inflation 40psi * Reinforced Sidewall Passenger car tire Goform G520 - 205/70R14 98H XL Technical Information Width: 205 mm Profile: 70% Rim: 14" (355,6 mm) Wall Height: 143,5 mm Outside Diameter: 642,6 mm Standard Rim Width: 6 inches Rim Width Range: 5.5-7 inches Speed Rating: H 210 km/h 130 m/h Load Range: 98 750 kg 1653 pounds Extra Load (XL): Yes Tread: Symmetrical Directional?: No UTQG: 320AA Treadwear: 320 Traction: A Temperature: A http://www.tireshot.com/tire-profile.php?tire_id=9513 I bought a set based on Don’s recommendation. I couldn’t be happier. Jim > On May 8, 2016, at 6:50 AM, jondvo@GMAIL.COM wrote: > > The Go Form tired don't have the proper load range is what I meant > > Sent from a rotary phone > >> On May 7, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> "A real tire"?... Like perhaps 50% of the still new looking used Michelin tires I've seen come my way recently? <(Sarcastic) With the tread bulges and separations? I've given up on Michelin.. >> >> I don't advocate the Go Form brand or any particular tire from them, just passing on my own experience with these, in answer to a query. >> DH >> >> >> >>> On May 7, 2016 7:43 AM, "Jon VonOhlsen" <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The GoForm G520 185 or 195r14 tire has a load index of 86(195) or 88(185), or a capacity of about 1250#. I'll stick with a real tire...unless there is some other version from Tires Easy. >>> Jon >>> >>> >>>> On 5/7/2016 8:23 AM, Don Hanson wrote: >>>> I, too, was skeptical when I bought a pair of these to make it home from >>>> the desert one spring...being short of cash, though, I had no choice. >>>> >>>> They've surprised me by consistently performing just as well as the >>>> higher priced tires they claim to have copied... Thanks to Ron for taking >>>> the time to look up the back round info. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 6:41 AM, The Bus Depot <vanagon@busdepot.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> what is the name and where can you >>>>>> get the chinese copies of the hankook tires? >>>>>> Go Form >>>>> I looked into this claim after it was repeated here several times (by the >>>>> same individual, I believe). I also spoke to Hankook about it. The GoForms >>>>> come from a company called Qingdao Gloryred International Trade Company, >>>>> whose advertising headline is trade publications is (not kidding) "Sell >>>>> cheap tyre." Qingdao Gloryred has no affiliation whatsoever with Hankook. >>>>> Hankook has not shared any technology with them or licensed any technology >>>>> to them. Their claim of using "Hankook technology" is based solely on the >>>>> fact that their technical engineer used to work for Hankook. Given that >>>>> employees often change jobs, by that standard almost any company could >>>>> claim a connection to any other company. It is not uncommon for off-brand >>>>> Chinese companies to make false claims of affiliation with or endorsement >>>>> by name brands in order to lend legitimacy to their products. For example >>>>> there are several other off-brand Chinese companies that claim to use >>>>> "Michelin technology" but have no actual connection with Michelin. Laws >>>>> against false advertising are not the same in China. Interestingly, these >>>>> companies don't make those claims in the U.S., where they would be forced >>>>> to retract them immediately. >>>>> >>>>> Consumer Reports tested several off-brand Chinese tires (although not >>>>> GoForms) a couple of years ago and found that they all performed at the >>>>> absolute bottom of the pack for safety and for lifespan, even though some >>>>> had copied the tread pattern of better known tires. They interviewed >>>>> Clarence Ditlow, executive director of the Center for Auto Safety, who >>>>> explained this disparity by pointing out that “the composition of the tire >>>>> is more important than the mold.” In other words you can make the tread >>>>> look the same cosmetically, but if the rubber compound is different, it's a >>>>> different tire. The tires they checked were also "iffy" in other ways, such >>>>> as using counterfeit date codes on the sidewall. Consumer Reports - whose >>>>> goal is to find bargains and "best buys" - concluded by advising its >>>>> readers to stick with the name brands, which were actually better bargains >>>>> in the long run even just based on treadwear alone. >>>>> >>>>> I have not tried the GoForm tire so I can't comment on it specifically. >>>>> For all I know it may be a decent cheap tire on its own merits. But it has >>>>> no more connection to a Hankook RA08 than any other cheap Chinese tires >>>>> does, except perhaps skin-deep. >>>>> >>>>> Ron Salmon >>>>> The Bus Depot, Inc. >>>>> www.busdepot.com [We have] socialism for the rich and rugged free market capitalism for the poor. -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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