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Subject:Re: hankook ra-08 copies
From:Jim Arnott
Date:Sun, 8 May 2016 15:52:00 -0700

185/70R14 & 195/70R14 are not the proper SIZE.  Look at the 205/70R14 98H XL which IS the correct size and load range.

Vanagon & Camper
1984-1991
 
185R14C  6PR
- Min Load Index 99
- Max Load 1710 lbs
- Min Load Range C
- Max Inflation 55 psi
 
*205/70R14 97R
- Min Load Index 97
- Max Load 1580 lbs
- Max Inflation 40 psi
* Reinforced Sidewall Passenger car tire
 
 
Syncro Vanagon & Camper
1986-1991
 
185R14C  6PR
- Min Load Index 99
- Max Load 1710 lbs
- Min Load Range C
- Max Inflation 55psi
 
205R14C 6PR/8PR
- Min Load Index 109
- Max Load 2270 lbs
 - Min Load Range D
- Max Inflation 65psi
 
*205/70R14 97R
- Min Load Index 97
- Max Load 1580 lbs
- Max Inflation 40psi
* Reinforced Sidewall Passenger car tire

Goform G520 - 205/70R14 98H XL

Technical Information

Width: 205 mm

Profile: 70%

Rim: 14" (355,6 mm)

Wall Height: 143,5 mm

Outside Diameter: 642,6 mm

Standard Rim Width: 6 inches

Rim Width Range: 5.5-7 inches

Speed Rating: H 210 km/h 130 m/h 

Load Range: 98 750 kg 1653 pounds 

Extra Load (XL): Yes

Tread: Symmetrical 

Directional?: No 

UTQG: 320AA

Treadwear: 320 

Traction: A 

Temperature: A 

http://www.tireshot.com/tire-profile.php?tire_id=9513

I bought a set based on Don’s recommendation.  I couldn’t be happier.

Jim

> On May 8, 2016, at 6:50 AM, jondvo@GMAIL.COM wrote:
> 
> The Go Form tired don't have the proper load range is what I meant
> 
> Sent from a rotary phone
> 
>> On May 7, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> "A real tire"?...   Like perhaps 50% of the still new looking used Michelin tires I've seen come my way recently? <(Sarcastic) With the tread bulges and separations?  I've given up on Michelin..
>> 
>>  I don't advocate the Go Form brand or any particular tire from them, just passing on my own experience with these, in answer to a query.   
>> DH
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2016 7:43 AM, "Jon VonOhlsen" <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The GoForm G520 185 or 195r14 tire has a load index of 86(195) or 88(185), or a capacity of about 1250#. I'll stick with a real tire...unless there is some other version from Tires Easy.
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 5/7/2016 8:23 AM, Don Hanson wrote:
>>>> I, too, was skeptical when I bought a pair of these to make it home from
>>>> the desert one spring...being short of cash, though, I had no choice.
>>>> 
>>>>   They've surprised me by consistently performing just as well as the
>>>> higher priced tires they claim to have copied...  Thanks to Ron for taking
>>>> the time to look up  the back round info.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 6:41 AM, The Bus Depot <vanagon@busdepot.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> what is the name and where can you
>>>>>> get the chinese copies of the hankook tires?
>>>>>> Go Form
>>>>> I looked into this claim after it was repeated here several times (by the
>>>>> same individual, I believe). I also spoke to Hankook about it.  The GoForms
>>>>> come from a company called Qingdao Gloryred International Trade Company,
>>>>> whose advertising headline is trade publications is (not kidding) "Sell
>>>>> cheap tyre."  Qingdao Gloryred has no affiliation whatsoever with Hankook.
>>>>> Hankook has not shared any technology with them or licensed any technology
>>>>> to them.  Their claim of using "Hankook technology" is based solely on the
>>>>> fact that their technical engineer used to work for Hankook.  Given that
>>>>> employees often change jobs, by that standard almost any company could
>>>>> claim a connection to any other company.  It is not uncommon for off-brand
>>>>> Chinese companies to make false claims of affiliation with or endorsement
>>>>> by name brands in order to lend legitimacy to their products. For example
>>>>> there are several other off-brand Chinese companies that claim to use
>>>>> "Michelin technology" but have no actual connection with Michelin.  Laws
>>>>> against false advertising are not the same in China.  Interestingly, these
>>>>> companies don't make those claims in the U.S., where they would be forced
>>>>> to retract them immediately.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Consumer Reports tested several off-brand Chinese tires (although not
>>>>> GoForms) a couple of years ago and found that they all performed at the
>>>>> absolute bottom of the pack for safety and for lifespan, even though some
>>>>> had copied the tread pattern of better known tires.  They interviewed
>>>>> Clarence Ditlow, executive director of the Center for Auto Safety, who
>>>>> explained this disparity by pointing out that “the composition of the tire
>>>>> is more important than the mold.” In other words you can make the tread
>>>>> look the same cosmetically, but if the rubber compound is different, it's a
>>>>> different tire. The tires they checked were also "iffy" in other ways, such
>>>>> as using counterfeit date codes on the sidewall.  Consumer Reports - whose
>>>>> goal is to find bargains and "best buys" - concluded by advising its
>>>>> readers to stick with the name brands, which were actually better bargains
>>>>> in the long run even just based on treadwear alone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have not tried the GoForm tire so I can't comment on it specifically.
>>>>> For all I know it may be a decent cheap tire on its own merits. But it has
>>>>> no more connection to a Hankook RA08 than any other cheap Chinese tires
>>>>> does, except perhaps skin-deep.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ron Salmon
>>>>> The Bus Depot, Inc.
>>>>> www.busdepot.com

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