

| Subject: | Re: Rear-wheel clunk (possibly) identified |
| Date: | Wed, 25 May 2016 22:10:56 -0400 |
Check to make sure the lug nuts are tight. Sent from my iPad > On May 25, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > The clunking sound I have is exactly related to wheel speed. It sort of > fades in and stays a couple dozen seconds or a minute then fades out. I'm > pretty sure I've tried swerving and that didn't affect it. Also pretty > sure going around a curve either way did not affect it. If it is the > driveshaft end hitting the inside of the hub, why would it do that once per > revolution and only sometimes? The place I have had it happen more than > once is a long, strait mountain grade on Interstate where I'm at WOT for > quite a number of minutes and often have to put my AT in "2" for a while > too. > Edward > > > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Vincent Dow <ianvincentdow@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> That's great to learn greg. Thank you. >> >> The thread on samba zeroed in on the theory that the axle itself was moving >> between the CV joints. Because it's only held on by circlips. So the longer >> end slides and bangs into the hub.- or it could be dinging the output on >> the transaxle. >> >> There is a thrust washer which originally was supposed to slip on the axle >> before the circle, and that would limit the movement of the axle between >> CVs. But it was said to be a PITA to get the circle on with it there. The >> Cvs from van cafe still show the thrust washer in their kit. But many don't >> use it. >> >> The other possible solution is to slide the CV boot as far towards the >> wheel as possible, and that will hold the axle inboard. >> >> I'm going to check my trailing arm bushings tomorrow as well. >> best >> vinnie >> >>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:38 PM, KI4TLF <ki4tlf@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Mine had rear swing arm bushing going bad, specially the left side. >> After >>> turning to the right at speed, 25+ MPH, I'd get the clunking going over >>> bumps until I turned left at those speeds or higher again. >>> What was happening was the lower swing arm would shift inboard, then the >>> end of the axle would clunk over bumps. Once I turned right, it would >>> shift out, then no more clunking. >>> Replaced both lower swing arms bushing and no more problems turning >> either >>> way. :-) >>> >>> It took several months to find it driving it daily. Finally found out >>> what was happen after the CV boot tore and I went to replace it. Found >> the >>> swing arm would move in and out over an inch. >>> >>> GregM >>> '84 GL >>> 1.9l 4-speed >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >>> Of Vincent Dow >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:54 PM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Re: Rear-wheel clunk (possibly) identified >>> >>> Stick tranny. >>> I was just under there again, videoing the chamber of the trailing-arm, >>> occupied by the outboard CV joint. >>> Looking for something that could be striking. >>> >>> The Bentley manual doesn't show any washers, thrust washers... any of >> that >>> stuff being mentioned in the samba thread. >>> >>> I'm going to keep reading, thinking. Tomorrow it goes on a lift so at >>> least can inspect the CV and grease. >>> >>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Dan Lamb <vanagongramps@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Auto or stick tranny? Axle lengths are different left and right on >> auto. >>>> Someone may have used stick axles or swapped sides? Ones too long? >>>> >>>> Dan Lamb >>>> >>>>>> On May 25, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have puzzled over the same clunk in my '86 for years. It is on >>>>> the passenger side though. It is quite a heavy sound and feeling. >>>>> not like anything I could imagine in the brakes making. I'm not >>>>> sure mine goes >>>> away >>>>> if I swerve to load/unload the suspension. Mine went away for a >>>>> while after I replaced the outer CV on that side. Maybe couple >>>>> years/couple thousand miles. I haven't read all the samba article >>>>> linked but what I have read is interesting. IIRC, it does >>>>> sound/feel like what happens if you slide the axle in/out. >>>>> Edward >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Vincent Dow >>>>> <ianvincentdow@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Since last summer I've been experiencing a puzzling, intermittent >>>>>> clunk from the driver's side rear. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had the rear brakes serviced by a shop in L.A. There were a bunch >>>>>> of issues with that, but one of them was a very audible TOCK TOCK >>>>>> TOCK TOCK sound... the frequency of which corresponded to wheel >> speed. >>>>>> >>>>>> I only heard this sound when the van was warmed up from highway >>> driving. >>>>>> And then starting from a stop, or climbing a grade. >>>>>> >>>>>> My girlfriend came across this thread that deals with exactly what >>>>>> I >>>> have: >>>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=387993&postdays=0&pos >>>> torder=asc&highlight=axle++noise+fit&start=0&sid=cb5f768858f53fec27c75 >>>> 037b66837cf >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems to indicate an overlong CV-stub axle... that bunches up (I >>>>>> guess) >>>> and >>>>>> hits the hub. An absence of thrust washer between the hub and the >>>>>> CV >>>> might >>>>>> be the cause. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is anyone familiar with the thrust washer as spacer at the CV and >> hub? >>>>>> Tomorrow going to bring it up to Carrera motors and put it on the >>> lift. >>>> May >>>>>> just get the CVs greased while I'm at it - I leave cross country on >>>> friday! >>>>>> >>>>>> vinnie >>
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