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Subject:Re: GOWESTY AFM no start problem
From:Dennis Jowell
Date:Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:38:19 -0400

O2 Green wire to braided wire with ignition on is .44 VDC is this correct ? Hope fully I understood your suggestion. This is using my craftsman digital multimeter.

 Dennis J 

Dennis Jowell
Scotch Hollow Farm
Newbury, Vermont 

> On Jun 23, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As a 2 check for the O2 sensor signal wire, with the ignition on you should
> measure ~.5-/6 volt between that wire and chassis ground with the sensor
> disconnected. 
> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Jowell [mailto:dennisjowell@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 1:22 PM
> To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: GOWESTY AFM no start problem
> 
> Dennis
> I checked the plugs they are running on the lean side (whitish electrodes )
> but no fouling there. The AFM is brand new from GOWESTY I just got it in my
> mail and I never used it until yesterday.
> Checked the O2 sensor connections. Green wire- the braided copper is
> continuous to body ground, solid center wire to ground is around 200 ohms to
> ground. I cannot find info on the required ohms for the center solid wire in
> my Bently I originally thought that the solid center wire should not have
> any ohms to ground on it. This must mean that the interior wire is making
> contact with the braided wire.  Would this be true ?
> 
> Dennis Jowell
> Scotch Hollow Farm
> Newbury, Vermont 
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> In your messing around you may have gotten it so rich you fouled the 
>> spark plugs. Check them first. If so the O2 sensor is most likely also 
>> fouled and if lucky the time period was short enough that you didn't 
>> destroy the catalytic converter. Now as to what could have happened. 
>> You could have something as little as a poor connection at either the AFM
> or the O2 sensor.
>> Those sliding contacts on the airflow meter can be very troublesome. 
>> They don't have that much "wipe" pressure and just a little corrosion 
>> makes them intermittent. Also, the wires break inside the insulation 
>> or fail at the crimp. Most true AFM issues are in fact contact issues. 
>> When lucky changing the part takes care of the contact problem and you
> think you did good.
>> 
>> Changing parts like this you need to learn how to test for proper 
>> operation including O2 sensor voltages both disconnected (open loop) 
>> and connected, (closed loop, in control).
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Dennis Jowell
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:38 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: GOWESTY AFM no start problem
>> 
>> Here we go,
>> My Westy 2.2 WBX was running almost great after traveling 2500 miles 
>> to Ontario and back to Vermont. Decided to install the new 
>> reconditioned GOWESTY AFM today.
>> I disconnected the O2 sensor then installed the AFM started the engine 
>> with the O2 still disconnected idled great. Shut everything down
> reconnected O2.
>> With engine warn went for a short trip on our dirt road accelerated 
>> engine it started to miss fire then died! Got it started at idle then 
>> accelerated and it died again. Got it going again, limped back to the farm
> at idle only.
>> Now it won't start at all! I reinstalled the old AFM and it made no 
>> difference. Still no start. Engine turns over, disconnected the return 
>> to fuel tank line fuel comes out ok. I can hear the fuel pump running. 
>> I think the filter and pump are working., 2 days ago I changed the 
>> hall sensor wring with a new connector from GOWESTY, cleaned the hall 
>> sensor ground lead. It ran great after that installation.
>> I'm about to try the"No Start tool"  wiring kit that was suggested to 
>> use on the site. But before i did this I thought I would ask for ideas.
>> 
>> Dennis Jowell
>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>> Newbury, Vermont