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Subject:Re: why I discourage people from buying vanagons
From:Eric Wunrow
Date:Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:57:21 -0700

Here, here, David!

We've full-timed three years on the 31st. Still backpack as much as possible, surrounded by motorhomes now at Tillicum Beach, Oregon.

Funny thing is the real campers, the "tenters," (Cringe�) get it and love us. 

The bigger the others' condo on wheels is, the less likely they are to even say Hello.

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On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:13 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I am not a gearhead, but just an ordinary person who likes to have a
> vehicle for camping (and definitely not a motor home for staying in motor
> home parks.  I mean camping).   I essentially knew nothing about what
> owning one of these beasts would be like, except that it WAS old, and that
> despite what people call "quality," Volkswagens generally require more
> maintenance than most vehicles.  But I wanted one for what it is.
> 
> I got it.  I became disillusioned by the amount of work it required, but I
> kept it.  I am very glad I did so.  It has taken Bonnie and me into many
> places that we wanted to be.  If we had our "druthers" we'd still be
> backpacking and tent camping, but sleeping on the ground, and carrying gear
> on our backs is now beyond our reasonable capabilities.  The beast is a
> good compromise between what we would prefer and not camping at all.  We
> are not going to turn into RV people, we like nature, not RV parks.
> 
> mcneely
> 
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Scott - IMAP <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I just saw on Wet Westy's that a couple just got a 91 Syncro Tin Top and
>> they're all excited of course ...camping and adventure etc.
>> 
>> their last VW was a 67 Split Window Bus I think I read ..
>> that sure is a Quantum Leap ..............and they'll probably do fine ...
>> IF  ever there was a Vanagon to warn people ..'be prepared for what
>> you're getting into' ...or however you want to put it,
>> it's a Syncro Vanagon. Not for the faint of heart or wallet, generally
>> speaking.
>> 
>> Reminds me, I have a stock Syncro Driveshaft I would sell.
>> Nothing particularily wrong or worn on it.  Located Southern Oregon.
>> 
>> I 'may' be up to Portland OR around July 17...concerning any delivery.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/4/2016 2:36 PM, Edward Maglott wrote:
>> 
>>> To clarify, the folks I usually discourage are those who stop me in a
>>> parking lot or at a campground really enthusiastic about wanting to get
>>> "such a cool vehicle!"  I tell them about the woes and high cost of
>>> ownership if you can't do at least some of the work yourself.  I think
>>> gearheads like many of us get interested in them and do some research and
>>> decide whether or not to jump into the adventure called Vanagon Ownership.
>>> Edward
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Scott - IMAP <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I never discourage people from owning Vanagons ..
>>>> 
>>>> I just tell them they take SPECIAL CARE AND UNDERSTANDING ..
>>>> that they are not like a old, say, Toyota that will run forever with
>>>> hardly any repairs..
>>>> 
>>>> I also ask if they have ever owned a VW of any kind.
>>>> Some VW background helps for sure.
>>>> 
>>>> Fortunately older VW's are pretty conducive to owner-repair and
>>>> maintenance.
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/2/2016 6:59 AM, Edward Maglott wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis says:  "One thing you will find as a new Vanagon owner is that
>>>> most
>>>> regular shops are not equipped or willing to bother with vehicles of this
>>>> vintage, never mind the Vanagon with its idiosyncrasies."
>>>> 
>>>> worse yet are those shops that don't know what they are doing but try to
>>>> work on the Vanagon anyway, causing much more damage than good.
>>>> 
>>>> Edward
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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