

| Subject: | Re: HELP: Engine stopped |
| From: | Roy Nicholl |
| Date: | Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:28:00 -0300 |
Phillippe: Jim is correct - it’s one or the other. If you are seeing no power on #4 to the distributor, I would suspect an over-heating/failing coil. If you are simply seeing no pulse … then the Hall sensor/sender would be suspect. I’ve had a coil fail with similar behaviour to what you are experiencing - when it became too hot. Thus far my hall sensor is fine - though I’ve been told they fail more frequently than coils. > On 07-Jul-2016, at 16:11, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > Definitely have power to terminal 15. > > Seems like waiting 5-10m allows me to restart and drive a few minutes, then > engine dies again. > > Interesting note: when engine is about to die, pressing accelerator does > nothing until floored, and then I hear the engine rev up only then. And at > the same time engine rpm needle on dashboard is at zero and doesn't move. > Then engine dies. > > Going to try to make it home 2min at a time. > > I have the wrong multimeter (not precise enough). > > Any extra thoughts based on the above notes appreciated! > On Jul 7, 2016 12:02 PM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: > > Bad Hall sensor or bad coil. Rare coil failure but I have had several with > a break in the windings that will expand when hot and stop the car. > > Jim > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 1:55 PM Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > >> Phillip: >> >> Primary (#1 & #15): 0.5Ω - 0.8Ω >> Secondary (#1 & #4): 2.5kΩ - 3.5kΩ or 7kΩ to 8kΩ (upper bound may be a >> little higher) >> >> If your coil is outside theses ranges, then it may be time to get the >> spare out from under the bench. >> >> Check to be certain you still have power to #15 when you are not getting >> spark. >> >> >>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:42, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNet.nb.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Ooops …. those are kila-ohms on the secondary (HT) circuit … put your >> meter into the right rage. >>> >>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:40, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNet.nb.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> Going by memory here: >>>> >>>> Primary circuit: >>>> #15 is live (low voltage side) >>>> #1 is switched ground (tach signal) >>>> >>>> You should have 0.5 - 0.8 (or 0.9) ohms across here >>>> >>>> >>>> The HT circuit is between 1 and wire to distributer (#4?): You should >> measure either ~2.5 - 3.5 Ohms or ~7 - 8ohms, depending on the generation >> of your coil … one is green the other grey … I cannot remember which is >> which. >>>> >>>> Make certain you disconnected the coil completely before measuring >> resistance! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:17, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Engine just died while idling in a parking lot. Zero resistance > between >>>>> terminals 1 and 15 >>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 11:03 AM, "Roy Nicholl" <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Centre ignition wire …. you mean from the coil to the distributor? >>>>>> >>>>>> Start working backwards … is the coil failing? When there is no >> spark … >>>>>> do you have power into the coil? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 14:58, Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope, saw that message afterwards. I'll bow out. I've never seen >> that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Fuzzy :philippe < >> fuzzmeister@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There seems to be a lack of spark from the center ignition wire. >> Does >>>>>> that >>>>>>>> connect with the issue you had? >>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 10:55 AM, "Tyler Hardison" <tyler@seraph-net.net> >> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phillippe, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I too had this issue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The problem is likely vapor lock caused by clogged fuel filter or >>>>>>>>> possibly the pressure regulator. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Look under the van on the passenger side for the fuel filter(s). >> If you >>>>>>>>> have two, you can eliminate the front square filter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --t >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Fuzzy :philippe < >>>>>> fuzzmeister@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't post here often but I'm hoping you guys can help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have an '87 2.1L Vanagon GL >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I drive it, and suddenly the engine stops and won't restart for >> about >>>>>>>>>> 10min. Then it starts and runs for a few minutes and dies again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? I'm on the road with basic tools and multimeter, but I >>>>>> haven't >>>>>>>>>> done this sort of diagnostic before. I could use a short talk on >> the >>>>>>>>>> phone >>>>>>>>>> with anyone who can help. I also have the servicing manual but >> these >>>>>>>>>> books >>>>>>>>>> assume basic knowledge of such engines, which I don't. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A quick text to 415-505-0786 would be awesome! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much, >>>>>>>>>> Philippe >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>
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