

| Subject: | Re: HELP: Engine stopped |
| From: | Richard Koller |
| Date: | Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:47:44 -0400 |
This happened to me and it was the coil. I noticed the coil was extremely hot to the touch in my case. Good luck. Rick On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@gmail.com> wrote: > Just reconfirmed this now. Ignition switch was on, and wasn't able to start > it. Waiting a few minutes now with ignition switch off. > On Jul 7, 2016 12:34 PM, "Fuzzy :philippe" <fuzzmeister@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yep, pointing more and more towards the coil. > > > > Also seems like keeping the ignition on makes it not start after 5m. But > > with ignition off it starts after 5min. > > On Jul 7, 2016 12:28 PM, "Roy Nicholl" <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > > > >> Phillippe: > >> > >> Jim is correct - it’s one or the other. If you are seeing no power on > #4 > >> to the distributor, I would suspect an over-heating/failing coil. If > you > >> are simply seeing no pulse … then the Hall sensor/sender would be > suspect. > >> I’ve had a coil fail with similar behaviour to what you are > experiencing - > >> when it became too hot. Thus far my hall sensor is fine - though I’ve > >> been told they fail more frequently than coils. > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 07-Jul-2016, at 16:11, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Definitely have power to terminal 15. > >> > > >> > Seems like waiting 5-10m allows me to restart and drive a few minutes, > >> then > >> > engine dies again. > >> > > >> > Interesting note: when engine is about to die, pressing accelerator > does > >> > nothing until floored, and then I hear the engine rev up only then. > And > >> at > >> > the same time engine rpm needle on dashboard is at zero and doesn't > >> move. > >> > Then engine dies. > >> > > >> > Going to try to make it home 2min at a time. > >> > > >> > I have the wrong multimeter (not precise enough). > >> > > >> > Any extra thoughts based on the above notes appreciated! > >> > On Jul 7, 2016 12:02 PM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Bad Hall sensor or bad coil. Rare coil failure but I have had several > >> with > >> > a break in the windings that will expand when hot and stop the car. > >> > > >> > Jim > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 1:55 PM Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Phillip: > >> >> > >> >> Primary (#1 & #15): 0.5Ω - 0.8Ω > >> >> Secondary (#1 & #4): 2.5kΩ - 3.5kΩ or 7kΩ to 8kΩ (upper bound may > be a > >> >> little higher) > >> >> > >> >> If your coil is outside theses ranges, then it may be time to get the > >> >> spare out from under the bench. > >> >> > >> >> Check to be certain you still have power to #15 when you are not > >> getting > >> >> spark. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:42, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNet.nb.ca> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Ooops …. those are kila-ohms on the secondary (HT) circuit … put > your > >> >> meter into the right rage. > >> >>> > >> >>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:40, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNet.nb.ca> > wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Going by memory here: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Primary circuit: > >> >>>> #15 is live (low voltage side) > >> >>>> #1 is switched ground (tach signal) > >> >>>> > >> >>>> You should have 0.5 - 0.8 (or 0.9) ohms across here > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The HT circuit is between 1 and wire to distributer (#4?): You > >> should > >> >> measure either ~2.5 - 3.5 Ohms or ~7 - 8ohms, depending on the > >> generation > >> >> of your coil … one is green the other grey … I cannot remember which > is > >> >> which. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Make certain you disconnected the coil completely before measuring > >> >> resistance! > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 15:17, Fuzzy :philippe <fuzzmeister@GMAIL.COM> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Engine just died while idling in a parking lot. Zero resistance > >> > between > >> >>>>> terminals 1 and 15 > >> >>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 11:03 AM, "Roy Nicholl" <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> > >> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> Centre ignition wire …. you mean from the coil to the > distributor? > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Start working backwards … is the coil failing? When there is no > >> >> spark … > >> >>>>>> do you have power into the coil? > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On 07-Jul-2016, at 14:58, Tyler Hardison <tyler@SERAPH-NET.NET> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Nope, saw that message afterwards. I'll bow out. I've never seen > >> >> that. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Fuzzy :philippe < > >> >> fuzzmeister@gmail.com> > >> >>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> There seems to be a lack of spark from the center ignition > wire. > >> >> Does > >> >>>>>> that > >> >>>>>>>> connect with the issue you had? > >> >>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 10:55 AM, "Tyler Hardison" < > tyler@seraph-net.net> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Phillippe, > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> I too had this issue. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> The problem is likely vapor lock caused by clogged fuel filter > >> or > >> >>>>>>>>> possibly the pressure regulator. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Look under the van on the passenger side for the fuel > filter(s). > >> >> If you > >> >>>>>>>>> have two, you can eliminate the front square filter. > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> --t > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Fuzzy :philippe < > >> >>>>>> fuzzmeister@gmail.com> > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I don't post here often but I'm hoping you guys can help. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I have an '87 2.1L Vanagon GL > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I drive it, and suddenly the engine stops and won't restart > for > >> >> about > >> >>>>>>>>>> 10min. Then it starts and runs for a few minutes and dies > >> again. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? I'm on the road with basic tools and multimeter, > but > >> I > >> >>>>>> haven't > >> >>>>>>>>>> done this sort of diagnostic before. I could use a short talk > >> on > >> >> the > >> >>>>>>>>>> phone > >> >>>>>>>>>> with anyone who can help. I also have the servicing manual > but > >> >> these > >> >>>>>>>>>> books > >> >>>>>>>>>> assume basic knowledge of such engines, which I don't. > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> A quick text to 415-505-0786 would be awesome! > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much, > >> >>>>>>>>>> Philippe > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >
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