

| Subject: | Re: Is something killing my starters? |
| From: | Michael McSwain |
| Date: | Sun, 10 Jul 2016 04:28:28 +0000 |
Many thanks for the starter advice. I installed a new gear reduction starter with the Westy Ventures adapter today and couldn't be happier. I was considering replacing the factory +battery cable with some welding cable but I decided to leave it be for now. I'll probably try the load/no load multimeter test but it seems to be starting the van effortlessly at the moment so hopefully I'm all good. Thanks again! Michael. On Wed, Jun 29, 2016, 1:01 PM Michael McSwain <michaelmcswain@gmail.com> wrote: > Well I took the starter out last night and it's definitely not responding > to voltage at all. I think I'm going to try one of Karl's adapters and a > gear reduction starter along with a new cable to the battery. My current > cable is slightly frayed at the battery end and at least 2 strands of wire > are broken. So hopefully that's a safe bet. I will probably try the > voltage test you described after new starter but before new cable. Seems > reasonable. > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016, 10:29 AM Steve Williams < > steve@williamsitconsulting.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> My first guess would be the positive cable from the battery to the >> starter. >> >> If there is corrosion or deterioriation of the wiring, there will be a >> bigger voltage drop over the length of the cable. Voltage drop is >> related to the amount of current being drawn through the wire, so it's >> best to test under load. >> >> If the voltage drop is too much (voltage too low @ starter), the only >> way for the starter to work is to draw more current to compensate for >> lower voltage. High current is what will generally cause electrical >> devices to burn up. >> >> I've never had to do this, but I would think measuring the actual >> voltage from the starter post to a local ground WHILE CRANKING would be >> a useful data point. Do the same thing at the battery end of the cable >> & see how much voltage loss is in the cable. >> >> The other disadvantage of high voltage drop is that the drop is lost as >> heat, which isn't really desirable when dealing with the current that a >> starter draws. >> >> Cheers, >> Steve W. >> >> >> On 26/06/2016 12:09 PM, Michael McSwain wrote: >> > I replaced my unknown age starter on my 1.9 about a year ago with a >> brand >> > new Bosch. Recently it started displaying the same symptoms as the >> > previous one. Turning the engine over seemed to get more and more >> > laborious and eventually it stopped doing anything at all. The last >> hand >> > full of times it actually started, I turned the key and it turned over >> > once, then a 2 second or so silent pause then it turned over again and >> > cranked up. Pretty much the same exact symptoms as the previous starter. >> > >> > So far I've jumpered around my ignition switch. Nothing. I cleaned my >> > battery/body and transmission grounds. Nothing. I bridged the starter >> and >> > solenoid posts with a screw driver and got a little spark, but nothing >> at >> > all from the starter motor. Silence on all counts except for the fuel >> pump >> > priming which has been happening all along. Does this just sound like >> bad >> > luck and it's a bad starter or is there something else that could be >> > causing a premature failure of the starter? >> > >> > I also had my battery checked and it checked out fine. I have one of >> those >> > cigarette lighter volt meters that consistently shows 13.9 volts at >> speed. >> > If it weren't a 1 year old Bosch starter I would have immediately >> assumed >> > that to be the problem. Am I just in denial? >> > >> > Any thoughts would be much appreciated >> >>
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