

| Subject: | Re: 1991 Carat - the drama continues |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Thu, 21 Jul 2016 23:00:39 -0400 |
You can also use a voltmeter connected with the actual circuit and test the complete system. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Larry Alofs Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:12 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: 1991 Carat - the drama continues You can test switches like these with an ohmmeter, a bicycle pump, and a pressure gauge. Larry A. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > It would be very rare for an oil pressure switch to completely fail > out of the box. I've seen them be way out of tolerance not yet one > that didn’t work at all. It is possible that you really have a wiring > issue and that moving stuff made the system work for now. This is > usually the case when someone thinks they fixed an operating problem > by replacing the temp 2 sensor. Simply wiping the contacts or moving > the wires where crimped in those connector terminals did the fix. > > The connector for the oil pressure switches on the left side of the > engine tends to corrode and make a very high resistance connection > causing false oil pressure alarms. A bad engine ground can also cause > a back feed triggering the system to falsely alarm. Using a meter a > real diagnoses could have been made without simply changing parts and seeing what happens. > Who knows, maybe you have a switch that was operating at the high end > and that engine has an oil pressure problem. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf Of John Rodgers > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:38 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: 1991 Carat - the drama continues > > No, what I'm saying is, a brand new switch failed right out of the > box. I supplied the new switches - and a new thermostat - to the shop. > They were quite old, having been gifted to me when a local VW shop > closed. I was gifted many genuine VW parts. Though old, but still in > the original boxes, I saw no reason not to use them. That one switch > failed. New out of the box failures are not new to me. I once had a > new piece of avionics navagational gear that cost $5000 fail on the > first flight after installation only 10 minutes from the airport after > departure. Frustrating to be sure. But an easy fix by exchanging for > another new one. Took a little time to R&R the thing. But other than that, no problem. Same with tne switch. > > John > > On Jul 21, 2016 04:03, "Frank Condelli" <RAlanen@aol.com> wrote: > > > Soooo, what you’re telling us here is that your shop rebuilt > > and installed an engine and did not install NEW $6.95 oil pressure > > switches and make sure the wiring to those two switches are in > > PERFECT > condition. > > Better tell us the shop to avoid ! > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 2016, at 12:00 AM, Automatic digest processor < > > LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote: > > > > > > Finnaly got the new engine installed, tested and everything seemed > > > to run fine. Water was used for cooling while testing. Drained it > > > out today, dragged out my bong filling devise, and proceeded to > > > fill the system with > > > 50/50 mix of glycol and water. Once filled, I took it out on > > > Interstate > > 20 > > > eat of birmingham for a test run. Couldn't have asked fo better > > > performance. As I rxited the highway at a cloverleave, my heart > > > sank! As the van slowed the oil light came on with the warning horn. > > > What tne > > heck! > > > > > > There was a big grassy area in the cloverleaf, and I coasted to > > > stop out > > in > > > it. I was puzzled. I waited a few minutes, then started again. > > > Goosed the throttle up a bit, and as the rpm dropped the oil light > > > came on again an the horn sounded. Little bells started ringing. I > > > thought, lets try this again, but take the rpm to 3000 rpm. I > > > started the engine, held at 3000, and the oil lighT DID NOT come > > > on.as I let off on the gas, and as the > > rpm > > > hit 2200, the alarm sounded and the light came on. Aha, I thought, > > > I've > > got > > > you now! Dynamic oil pressure fault. Started the engine, held it > > > at idle > > - > > > no light and alarm. Push the rpm to2000 and held, still no alarm > > > an > > light. > > > Increased rpm to 2500, no alarm, no light. Let off on the gas and > > > whenn > > the > > > rpm dropped to 2200 the light came on and the ala3rm sounded. > > > Definitely that dynamic oil pressure system! Drove it back to the > > > shop at 2000 rpm > > and > > > under. No problem, no light, no alarm. > > > > > > Tomorrow it gets a new switch! > > > > > > Hopefully the vehicle will be ready then for the rest of it's > > > restoration > > > > > > John > > > > Cheers, > > > > Frank Condelli > > Almonte, Ontario, Canada > > '87 VW Westy, '00 Kawasaki 250 Sherpa, "98 Ducati 750 Monster & > > Lionel Trains (Collection for sale > > <http://frankcondelli.com/trainsal.htm>) > > Frank Condelli & Associates <http://www.frankcondelli.com/> - > > Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley BusFusion > > <http://www.busfusion.com/> a VW Camper camping event, Almonte, ON, > > June 02 ~ 05, 2016 > > >
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