Have You checked the Batt'Voltage while Cranking ~ I had this happen once on My

83.5 back in '80s & it turned out to be a ShortedCell in the Batt' ~ So the other 5 Cells

were putting out plenty of Juice to CrankIt but the Voltage was not High Enough to make

the ECU Happy ~

                                                                                        ORR ~ DeanB

On 3 Aug , 2016, at 6:52 AM, Skip L wrote:

> Thanks John,
> 
> I tested the coil this morning before leaving for the office.  I gots
> spark.  The video is great!  Had to review it about five times to make sure
> I understood everything.  I've done this before, but it's been about three
> years.   So the coil if fine.
> 
> I'm not convinced, yet, that the issue is the Hall Sender.  As mentioned,
> I'll go through the ECU trouble-shooting process in Bentley this evening.
> 
> Skip
> 
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:18 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Here is a link to a youtube video for a simple test of the coil and the
>> Hall Sensor. Very definitive, easy to do where ever you are. Can even use a
>> paper clip, but a little peice of copper wire is best.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/95PkgSavOCo
>> 
>> Used this myself to find a bad coil, and later to find a bad Hall sensor.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2016 21:46, "Skip Laubach" <skiplaubach@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Had a few hours this evening to give it a go. Still no start.
>> 1.  Spoke with the gas station owner today. Very nice guy. Said they
>> filled the 2500 gal tank on July 7 and he filled his weed wackier with this
>> gas this Sunday and it ran fine through a full tank. Not bad gas.
>> 2.  I isolated the fuel tank by clamping both lines and pulled known good
>> gas out of a 1 gal container and back into a separate 1 gal container at
>> the fuel return line. No start. Further proof not bad gas, and also
>> confirmation that fuel is reaching injectors. Filter and fuel pump
>> confirmed good.
>> 3.  Hooked up a remote starter and, separately, jumped the ignition
>> switch. Cranked, no start on both fronts.
>> 4.  To make sure the engine is not flooded (good trick if you have a "hot
>> engine/no start") I disconnected the two driver's side fuel injector wire
>> connectors and cranked. Still no start.
>> 5.  Suspect no spark, got gas, got air.
>> 6.  Tomorrow I'll run through Bentley's ECU tests with a voltmeter.
>> 7.  Got bad coil running through my brain right now. I have a spare. Maybe
>> the Hall Sender. Both are less than 5,000 miles new.
>> 
>> If you're still reading, any ideas?  Oh, Lauren, confirmed not diesel; no
>> offense taken, certainly worth mentioning. I have a 2015 Golf Sportwagen
>> TDI, so I'm well versed on, among other things, diesel fuel.
>> 
>> Thanks for your ideas.
>> 
>> Skip
>> '84 Digijet, now 2.2
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Stan Shapiro <mail@STANSHAPIRO.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The old -- crank but wont start-- isnt always that simple. About 3 weeks
>> ago I drove 6 miles down a nasty dirt road to the trail head at the end to
>> go hiking. Finished the trail. Got back to my Westie-- cranks-- but won't
>> start. Eventually it started and ran rough, stalled out,  it did that a few
>> more times and eventually it started up good enough to run.  But continued
>> to have difficulty starting, almost to the point of not starting. I thought
>> for sure that it would have been dirt from the gas tank that had jiggled
>> free from the horrendous dirt road, and plugged the filter.   Changed the
>> fuel filter in the campground.   Didn't make any difference.  Turned out to
>> be a bad coil.
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Eric Caron <ecaron1@COMCAST.NET>
>>> Date: 7/31/16  17:22  (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Bad fuel?
>>> 
>>> Hi Skip,
>>> 
>>>        I�m probably the weakest authority but  don�t think it is the
>> gas.  I suspect you have a different issue.  It may be a clogged fuel
>> filter. Is the fuel pump running?
>>> 
>>>        Again I�m no authority but when this happened to me years ago
>> the fuel pump had died.  thats when I learned how to change a fuel pump on
>> the side of the road.
>>> 
>>> I hope others give you better advice and please let us know what happens.
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
>>> 85 GL Auto Westfalia
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Skip Laubach <skiplaubach@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Most likely. I filled up with ethanol-free gas (a rarity in Illinois).
>> I drove 1/2 mile and the engine turned off. No start, just cranking over
>> and over. Getting AAA towed in about 25 minutes. I suspect bad gas as it
>> looked like a pump that does not get used much... and the van died after a
>> very short while.
>>>> 
>>>> '84 Westy.
>>>> 
>>>> Question. OK to drain the tank, add 5 gals of normal gas, maybe some
>> Sea-Foam or MMO?  Any other measures that I should take?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Skip
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>