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Subject:Re: CV boot problem repair problem continued
From:Alistair Bell
Date:Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:11:40 -0700

I have a pair of pliers that is designed to get those clips off. I'm sorry I can't recall the name of the clip type off hand, but it's surprising how well the pliers work.

Alistair

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Eric Caron <ecaron1@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> 
>        Success! In two hours with the help of a friend I was able to get the CV boot changed.  I had to use a used VW boot but plan to do the job again with a new boot and synthetic grease.  At lease now I have the van for the next few months and can plan the install of the new boots.
> 
>        I will need to purchase a few tools to do this job on my own.
>        In reality I am so worried about the joint coming apart I might  choose to plan to have a partner.  It was great to do this as a team.
> 
>        Interestingly, my friend has a recently damaged ankle and had to be very careful and was restricted in movements.  This ment he had to advise a lot more and thus I learned a lot more.  Stil. 2 hours for two men with serious impairments isn’t bad!
> 
>        As a past girlfriend would say, two men one good body, no brain!
> 
> 
>        Thanks to everyone for all the information and tips.  I plan to use my  knowledge gained to keep this van healthy.
> 
> Now for a related question.
> 
>        The C shaped clip was a challenge to remove and install.  I thought the clip would have holes to match the special pliers.  Mine did not.  Can I purchase these somewhere and get them with the holes that would make it easier to put them off and on? I would not mind having spares as with grease covered hands they could be easy to drop when doing install or removal.  for me dropping a small part is a major setback.
> 
> Best.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 85 GL Auto 
> Ready for the rest of the summer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Ned Savoie <ned@HARBOURLIGHT.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> Good point. I don't know if they make one for IRS? I've used these on my
>> 78, and just assumed someone made one to work with the IRS as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Ned
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Ned Savoie
>> Creative Director
>> 
>> Harbour Light Strategic Marketing
>> Savvy Software, Inc.
>> 621A Islington Street
>> Portsmouth, NH 03801
>> 
>> [Telephone] 603.427.2821
>> [Facsimile] 603.427.0938
>> [Mobile] 603.828.2400
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ned:
>>> 
>>> Those are what I have on my ’66 Westfalia which has a swing axle (torsion
>>> bar).  They are not designed for IRS.
>>> 
>>>> On 16-Aug-2016, at 00:33, Ned Savoie <ned@HARBOURLIGHT.COM> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Eric,
>>>> 
>>>> It's late and I just did a quick search, but here's an example. Others
>>> are
>>>> probably far better to help find the best one (or one for the proper year
>>>> and vehicle). It certainly is a great arrow to have in your repair
>>>> quiver....
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/111598021A
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ned
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Ned Savoie
>>>> Creative Director
>>>> 
>>>> Harbour Light Strategic Marketing
>>>> Savvy Software, Inc.
>>>> 621A Islington Street
>>>> Portsmouth, NH 03801
>>>> 
>>>> [Telephone] 603.427.2821
>>>> [Facsimile] 603.427.0938
>>>> [Mobile] 603.828.2400
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi ned,
>>>>> 
>>>>>      I didn’t no there was such a beast.  Do you have a link?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Luckily thanks to this list and local support I should be on the road in
>>>>> time for last summer trip.  And, I should have knowledge and tools to do
>>>>> this myself in the future.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Still this could be a handy thing to have to keep me from getting stuck
>>>>> traveling with a open boot in the future.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>> 85 GL Auto Westfalia
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Ned Savoie <ned@harbourlight.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey Eric (and list),
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What about using one of the aftermarket boots that you screw together.
>>> I
>>>>> know they have a bad reputation, but it might be the best thing to get
>>> you
>>>>> going on your trip, and then you can do the full procedure when you have
>>>>> more time and are not under the gun.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ned
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ned Savoie
>>>>>> Creative Director
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Harbour Light Strategic Marketing
>>>>>> Savvy Software, Inc.
>>>>>> 621A Islington Street
>>>>>> Portsmouth, NH 03801
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [Telephone] 603.427.2821
>>>>>> [Facsimile] 603.427.0938
>>>>>> [Mobile] 603.828.2400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net
>>>>>> <mailto:ecaron1@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One more related question on this repair
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can someone tell me the correct torque for the CV bolts when we install
>>>>> the joint and boot back?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, anyone have a link to the tool used on these bolts, I’d like to
>>>>> have one for future use.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> appreciatively,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>> 85 GL Auto Westfalia
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Eric Caron <ecaron1@comcast.net <mailto:
>>>>> ecaron1@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi John and others,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     It looks like a Vanagon friend that has done this before has
>>>>> time to help out on Tuesday afternoon and has a boot.  Still I plan to
>>>>> leave this experience prepare to do this myself if it happens again.  I’
>>>>> plan to get the better quality boots and have them ready to go.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> These tips are appreciated and I’ve read through them several times in
>>>>> preporation.  I am hoping to look at a friends spare axle and CV joint
>>>>> before handling mine.  That will be a big help.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     The info given here gives me confidence and partly makes up for
>>>>> not  being able to see Bentley diagrams!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>>> 85 GL auto Westvalia
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:05 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:jrodgers113@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On the automatic the axles are of different lengths, but the
>>>>> procedure for moving and replacing the boots and the CV's is the same.
>>>>> Others have pretty much covered the steps, but I offer this an
>>> alternative.
>>>>> For getting the CV off of the axle.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Get a block of wood (a 2 x 6 x6) is good.
>>>>>>>> Get a piece of solid round steel or brass twelve inches long and one
>>>>> half to five eights inches in diameter.
>>>>>>>> Remove the circlip holding the CV on the shaft.
>>>>>>>> Hold the shaft vertical with one hand. The end of the shaft with the
>>>>> CV to be removed should rest on the center of the wood.
>>>>>>>> Place the steel or brass rod next to the axle.
>>>>>>>> Now hold the the two together with one hand.
>>>>>>>> Let the rod slide down until it touches the side inner race of the
>>> CV.
>>>>>>>> The rod should not be of a diameter to extend into the ball bearing
>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>> Tap the upper end of the rod downward with a hammer.
>>>>>>>> Slide the tod slightly around the axle shaft and tap again.
>>>>>>>> Continue this procedure until the CV begins to slide downward towards
>>>>> the wood.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> At that point the CV should slide from the shaft splines. Be very
>>>>> careful not to let the CV fall of or the center of the CV slide out
>>> because
>>>>> the bearing will also fall out. Then it becomes a nightmare to get back
>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To reassemble put boot on first, with the large open metal end to the
>>>>> end of the axle shaft. The CV should just slide on. If not freely, a
>>> slight
>>>>> bump with a rubber mallet should do the trick. Then put on the circlip
>>> to
>>>>> hold
>>>>>>>> the CV.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Feel free to ask questions.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John
>>> 
>>>