

| Subject: | Re: A bit more on keys... |
| From: | Steven Johnson |
| Date: | Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:08:13 -0400 |
My brand new off the lot 91 Westy (2wd) came with an ignition key that opens the gas cap as well. Separate key for the glove box. And a small plastic basic key to access the water flap cover. Steven 91 Westy On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Steve <vwcarlocks@hotmail.com> wrote: > The glovebox key is an SC profile, which is a single-sided key. It > appears that the middle seat compartment is also that key profile. I doubt > they were originally keyed alike, though I can find no documentation from > my old VW archives addressing the issue. In fact, there is no mention of > the middle seat compartment. I would think they could be rekeyed, if we > can get them apart. The glovebox locks are very difficult to take apart, > because the plastic has now become very brittle due to age. We don't rekey > them, though we can generate keys for them. I've never, in 16 years of > servicing VW locks, run across the middle seat lock, so I can't say for > certain about the rekeying except that it should be possible. > > > The gas cap many times will open with the ignition key, though it > shouldn't, except for Syncro Vanagons. The cap is different for the Syncro > and is keyed to the ignition. On the 2 wheel Vanagons, the majority of the > gas cap lock is plastic. Due to wear, but primarily caused by fuel fumes > softening the plastic, almost anything will turn the gas cap. Correctly, > though, if you have a 2 wheel drive Vanagon, it will use a different key > than the ignition/doors. > > > While we are at it, early Westfalias used a locking cap inside the water > filler. If you lift the cover to the filler, there is a plastic cap with a > small lock. That uses yet another key. There are no code numbers on that > lock and there are 34 possible keys. We need the lock to make a key. It > can be removed fairly simply to send to us. The later campers and the > replacement fillers use a cover hinged at the bottom and have a keyhole on > the outside. It is a simple plastic key that Bus Depot stocks. We have > made a trial run of metal keys for that application, but do not currently > market them. We have to hand make them, and the labor cost is just too > much to justify. > > > The doors and ignitions came from the factory keyed alike. We see many > people who have replaced the ignitions. The currently available ignition > does not use the same key as standard Vanagon keys. In addition, the wafer > placement internally is different. The correct ignition lock is not > available in any source I've located. Many vendors will say they have the > correct lock. They offer the generic VW lock from Jettas, Golfs, etc. It > will fit and work, but must use a different key. As I say, we have made > that lock work with the Vanagon key, but it involves some re-machining > internally, and removal of some of the wafers resulting in a lock that is > much less secure. > > > Now that we're all confused, there's a brief synopsis of Vanagon keys. > > > Steve > > > Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >
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