Thanks for the information. I'll start my search for some new winter tires next week in the upper valley off Vermont/New Hampshire and see what I can locate. 
Jim you noted in your email that "studded tire in the ice are killer " does that mean they are great for the ice or more dangerous than non studied snow tires? 

Dennis J

Dennis Jowell
Scotch Hollow Farm
Newbury, Vermont 

> On Nov 2, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Jim Arnott <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote:
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> I have an old set of Hakka 10s that I use when it gets really snotty. Daily driver tires are General Grabbers in 205/75R15 on the A’wagen and a new to me set of Maxmiler WT-1000 185R14 D non-studded winter tires on the Westy. The Maxmilers look like a Hakkapellitta copy.  We’ll see how they do.
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> Studded tire in the ice are killer, though a good set of non-studded winter tires seem to work just as well.  Look for the mountain symbol on the sidewall. https://www.kaltire.com/what-is-the-winter-tire-symbol/
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> Jim
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>> On Nov 2, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> Does it make sense to install 4 studded m&s tires for the winter on my 2wd 88' Westy camper? Last winter I slid all over the place with fairly new RO8' tires on the Westy. There was only about 1/4 of wet snow on main street St. J Vermont. We are still planning our trip to Yorktown Va. After thanksgiving. I want to have a safe trip. Any thoughts!
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>> Dennis J
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>> Dennis Jowell
>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>> Newbury, Vermont