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Subject:Re: Chains, traction... Vredisteins
From:David McNeely
Date:Tue, 29 Nov 2016 13:29:11 -0800

I found the directional arrow when I looked in better light today.  And,
whatever else Les Schwab does wrong, they did mount my Vredesteins
correctly, both left and right side.  I have not checked the spare, but if
it is not mounted for right side, well, I'm probably as likely to mess up a
tire on the left as on the right.

mcneely

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:02 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:

>         Just a Good Look @ the TreadPattern Implies They Are Directional ~
>
>
> On 29 Nov , 2016, at 9:43 AM, Dennis Jowell wrote:
>
> > I'll check it out tomorrow and get back together you.
> >
> > FOUND IT,! The directional arrow is right at the large 195 letters and
> is close to the rim. It is a small 3/8" arrow.
> >
> > Laters
> > Dennis J
> >
> > Dennis Jowell
> > Scotch Hollow Farm
> > Newbury, Vermont
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:27 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Where on the sidewall is the directional arrow?  I've just looked mine
> over, and didn't find it.  That doesn't mean it isn't there, of course, it
> just means I didn't find it.  Can you point me to the right direction ;-)
> ?  Sure would appreciate it.  I've also reread the description on the
> Vredestein site and a couple of others with no mention of the tire being
> directional.  That doesn't mean it isn't, either, of course.
> >>
> >> So, I bought five tires, specifically to have a like spare and to use a
> five tire rotation pattern.  With directional tires, that won't work, of
> course.  The dealer didn't point that out to me, so maybe that is a
> failing, such as Don mentioned that dealer is capable of.
> >>
> >> mcneely
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> David,
> >>> My new Vredesteins 195 r 14c) all weather tires are directional. There
> is a directional arrow printed on the sidewalk.
> >>> Laters,
> >>> Dennis J
> >>>
> >>> Dennis Jowell
> >>> Scotch Hollow Farm
> >>> Newbury, Vermont
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 5:42 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Don, when you say they mounted the tires backwards, please help me to
> >>>> understand.  They are not described as directional tires, unless I
> failed
> >>>> to read correctly.  But I will check mine.  How would I know they were
> >>>> mounted backwards?  You have had poor experience with Les Schwabb,
> can you
> >>>> be specific as to what they did wrong?  I tried other vendors, they
> were
> >>>> the only local one who would order the Vredesteins for me.  I do not
> like
> >>>> to buy tires from internet vendors.  The price I paid was the best
> price I
> >>>> found, internet vendors included.  At least there is someone I can go
> to if
> >>>> the tires fail, rather than having to deal with a distant vendor.
> >>>>
> >>>> Glad you had good luck with the Comtrac tire on winter conditions.  I
> will
> >>>> be driving from Spokane to Thousand Oaks, CA (and then to some outback
> >>>> locations in S California after Christmas) next month.  Right now I
> plan to
> >>>> go from Spokane to either Portland or Seattle depending on weather,
> and
> >>>> then S on I-5, to avoid mountain driving as much as possible.  I
> know, long
> >>>> way around, but may be safer.  Since you spend a lot of the winter
> down
> >>>> there, perhaps you can give me some pointers about free camping and
> >>>> pleasant environs.  We just want to enjoy the out and about while down
> >>>> there.
> >>>>
> >>>> mcneely
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just tested those Vredisteins (com Trac all season 195 r 14c) on a
> drive
> >>>>> through Nevada, Oregon and California.  Nasty conditions on hwy 95
> near
> >>>>> Goldfield, NV saw cars, RVs and a semi or two stuck on both sides of
> the
> >>>>> highway.... I managed to thread my way through, I'm sure on Momentum
> >>>>> alone.  And the folks who mounted these tires for me put em on
> backwards.
> >>>>> I give these tires a thumbs up...Very stable on ice in 60mph cross
> winds,
> >>>>> which I encountered for 50 miles....That being said...drive traction
> in a
> >>>>> 2wd Vanagon still sucks!   You lose momentum, you're done....
> >>>>>  Les Schwab:. They have an outstanding "presentation" making their
> >>>>> workers jog everywhere. ..looks impressive, but that is show
> only....they
> >>>>> aren't good.  Tires they sell fail..they make lots of mistakes....we
> gave
> >>>>> up on Les Schwab....
> >>>>>
> >>
>