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Subject:Re: Chains, traction... Vredisteins
From:OlRivrRat
Date:Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:02:39 -0700

Just a Good Look @ the TreadPattern Implies They Are Directional ~

 
On 29 Nov , 2016, at 9:43 AM, Dennis Jowell wrote:

> I'll check it out tomorrow and get back together you.
> 
> FOUND IT,! The directional arrow is right at the large 195 letters and is close to the rim. It is a small 3/8" arrow. 
> 
> Laters
> Dennis J
> 
> Dennis Jowell
> Scotch Hollow Farm
> Newbury, Vermont 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:27 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Where on the sidewall is the directional arrow?  I've just looked mine over, and didn't find it.  That doesn't mean it isn't there, of course, it just means I didn't find it.  Can you point me to the right direction ;-) ?  Sure would appreciate it.  I've also reread the description on the Vredestein site and a couple of others with no mention of the tire being directional.  That doesn't mean it isn't, either, of course.
>> 
>> So, I bought five tires, specifically to have a like spare and to use a five tire rotation pattern.  With directional tires, that won't work, of course.  The dealer didn't point that out to me, so maybe that is a failing, such as Don mentioned that dealer is capable of.
>> 
>> mcneely
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> David,
>>> My new Vredesteins 195 r 14c) all weather tires are directional. There is a directional arrow printed on the sidewalk.
>>> Laters,
>>> Dennis J
>>> 
>>> Dennis Jowell
>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>>> Newbury, Vermont
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 5:42 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Don, when you say they mounted the tires backwards, please help me to
>>>> understand.  They are not described as directional tires, unless I failed
>>>> to read correctly.  But I will check mine.  How would I know they were
>>>> mounted backwards?  You have had poor experience with Les Schwabb, can you
>>>> be specific as to what they did wrong?  I tried other vendors, they were
>>>> the only local one who would order the Vredesteins for me.  I do not like
>>>> to buy tires from internet vendors.  The price I paid was the best price I
>>>> found, internet vendors included.  At least there is someone I can go to if
>>>> the tires fail, rather than having to deal with a distant vendor.
>>>> 
>>>> Glad you had good luck with the Comtrac tire on winter conditions.  I will
>>>> be driving from Spokane to Thousand Oaks, CA (and then to some outback
>>>> locations in S California after Christmas) next month.  Right now I plan to
>>>> go from Spokane to either Portland or Seattle depending on weather, and
>>>> then S on I-5, to avoid mountain driving as much as possible.  I know, long
>>>> way around, but may be safer.  Since you spend a lot of the winter down
>>>> there, perhaps you can give me some pointers about free camping and
>>>> pleasant environs.  We just want to enjoy the out and about while down
>>>> there.
>>>> 
>>>> mcneely
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just tested those Vredisteins (com Trac all season 195 r 14c) on a drive
>>>>> through Nevada, Oregon and California.  Nasty conditions on hwy 95 near
>>>>> Goldfield, NV saw cars, RVs and a semi or two stuck on both sides of the
>>>>> highway.... I managed to thread my way through, I'm sure on Momentum
>>>>> alone.  And the folks who mounted these tires for me put em on backwards.
>>>>> I give these tires a thumbs up...Very stable on ice in 60mph cross winds,
>>>>> which I encountered for 50 miles....That being said...drive traction in a
>>>>> 2wd Vanagon still sucks!   You lose momentum, you're done....
>>>>>  Les Schwab:. They have an outstanding "presentation" making their
>>>>> workers jog everywhere. ..looks impressive, but that is show only....they
>>>>> aren't good.  Tires they sell fail..they make lots of mistakes....we gave
>>>>> up on Les Schwab....
>>>>> 
>>