

| Subject: | Re: Mechanical/Brakes/1984 Westy |
| From: | David Beierl |
| Date: | Tue, 6 Dec 2016 21:01:21 -0500 |
Well said, I agree. And I had an Uncle Elmer too, we called him Uncle Chocolate-covered Cherry. He drove a truck, as a matter of fact. Yrs, d On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com> wrote: > I just read the entire Samba thread on the subject and think every > poster--yes, even TK, whose unique style shone through > nonetheless--conducted himself admirably. I was recently involved in a > troubleshooting thread on a different forum and the clash over "...it's not > possible..." might have brought the contributors to blows if they'd been in > the same room. > > The thing about problems like this is that it's hard to stay on track > and not be driven crazy, even without off the wall suggestions by the > onlookers. My uncle Elmer, no matter what the problem, always suggested > checking the tire pressure. But he was a professional trucker with an > entire shop at his disposal, so had nothing to lose by spitballing. Glad > you got it fixed. > > Stephen > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 4:40 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> > wrote: > > > "There was zero reference in that post to make anyone think "wrong style > bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting." > > There are really only two reasons that could lead to bad clearances in a > tapered roller bearing -- wrong size bearing or damaged shaft. MarkWard > pointed you directly to the trouble, and certainly deserves credit for his > clear thinking. It is difficult to understand how any mechanic could > install a bearing half that was an eighth of an inch too large for the > shaft, but checking the clearances as MarkWard said would have instantly > found it . > > Yrs, > d > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote: > > > The overriding opinion on several fronts, even beyond here, was master > > cylinder-related, and several other potential issues others supported. > > > > > > Terry busted his butt trying to help us, we shared many posts, emails, > > texts, and phone calls. > > > > I'm sure not going to apologize for thanking someone that was really > there > > for me from Day 1. > > > > > > I've replied to Mark's post on the Samba… or, is that you and you're > > blowing your own horn? There was zero reference in that post to make > anyone > > think "wrong style bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting. > > > > > > My appreciation for each and every reply I've gotten from everyone has > > been stated, as I really am very thankful for everyone's help! > > > > This is the only note I could have done without… please just avoid my > > posts from here on out. > > > > Eric > > Eric Wunrow Pictures > > 303. 988. 8717 <(303)%20988-8717> > > > > VW@EricWunrow.com (for this list's emails) > > EW@EricWunrow.com (for private messages) > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET> wrote: > > > > > The official VW Parts says the spindle diameter changed in 84 model > year > > production at chassis number E - 023827 so most 84 would have the later > > bearing. Only pretty early 84 model year vans would have the old bearing. > > The factory built roughly 150,000 T3 vehicles most years. > > > > > > Not sure why you gave much credit to TK since Mark Ward blamed the > > bearings right away. Meanwhile TK had you replacing the master cylinder, > > looking for bad hoses, bad bleeders, and said several times that the > > bearing were likely not the cause. > > > > > > Yes, VanCafe rocks, as usual! > > > > > > Mark D > > > > > > > > > Eric Wunrow wrote: > > >> THANK YOU everyone for your help!!! > > >> > > >> The problem is fixed, and as I "just knew," yes my brake issue was > > related to putting in front bearings. > > >> > > >> As I kept saying ad nauseum, coincidences are rare in the mechanical > > world… > > >> > > >> > > >> Here's the short version… > > >> All Vanagons prior to later 1984 ending with 150001 as their chassis > > number (findable on the rearward side of the frame wall under the bus and > > below the passenger seat), which should match the VIN if not chopped, > had a > > smaller front spindle diameter. > > >> > > >> In our case, the mechanic used the later-version bearings on our > > early-1984 bus, meaning there was a huge amount of slop in the front > > bearings that enabled rotor-centering inconsistencies under braking. > Hence, > > pedal went to floor, then fine, then somewhere in between... > > >> > > >> > > >> Sans repeating the entire saga, and hopefully without irritating our > > lovely hosts here, here's all the details: > > >> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=667705& > > postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >
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