

| Subject: | Re: Mechanical/Brakes/1984 Westy |
| From: | David Beierl |
| Date: | Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:25:31 -0500 |
Good on ye, mate. On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote: > Thank You, Stephen, I really appreciate that! > > I hope everyone here understands my replies and confusion(s) in this > matter. It's been a real challenge to keep this sucker rolling and finding > reliable mechanics as well. But thankfully, there's been enough of them to > keep us moving forward. > > Thanks again to everyone. > > Eric > Eric Wunrow Pictures > 303. 988. 8717 > > VW@EricWunrow.com (for this list's emails) > EW@EricWunrow.com (for private messages) > > > > On Dec 6, 2016, at 11:45 AM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM> wrote: > > > I just read the entire Samba thread on the subject and think every > poster--yes, even TK, whose unique style shone through > nonetheless--conducted himself admirably. I was recently involved in a > troubleshooting thread on a different forum and the clash over "...it's not > possible..." might have brought the contributors to blows if they'd been in > the same room. > > The thing about problems like this is that it's hard to stay on track > and not be driven crazy, even without off the wall suggestions by the > onlookers. My uncle Elmer, no matter what the problem, always suggested > checking the tire pressure. But he was a professional trucker with an > entire shop at his disposal, so had nothing to lose by spitballing. Glad > you got it fixed. > > Stephen > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 4:40 AM, David Beierl < > dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote: > > > > > > "There was zero reference in that post to make anyone think "wrong style > > bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting." > > > > There are really only two reasons that could lead to bad clearances in a > > tapered roller bearing -- wrong size bearing or damaged shaft. MarkWard > > pointed you directly to the trouble, and certainly deserves credit for > his > > clear thinking. It is difficult to understand how any mechanic could > > install a bearing half that was an eighth of an inch too large for the > > shaft, but checking the clearances as MarkWard said would have instantly > > found it . > > > > Yrs, > > d > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote: > > > >> The overriding opinion on several fronts, even beyond here, was master > >> cylinder-related, and several other potential issues others supported. > >> > >> > >> Terry busted his butt trying to help us, we shared many posts, emails, > >> texts, and phone calls. > >> > >> I'm sure not going to apologize for thanking someone that was really > there > >> for me from Day 1. > >> > >> > >> I've replied to Mark's post on the Samba… or, is that you and you're > >> blowing your own horn? There was zero reference in that post to make > anyone > >> think "wrong style bearings…" so I think my reply there is fitting. > >> > >> > >> My appreciation for each and every reply I've gotten from everyone has > >> been stated, as I really am very thankful for everyone's help! > >> > >> This is the only note I could have done without… please just avoid my > >> posts from here on out. > >> > >> Eric > >> Eric Wunrow Pictures > >> 303. 988. 8717 > >> > >> VW@EricWunrow.com (for this list's emails) > >> EW@EricWunrow.com (for private messages) > >> > >> > >> > >> On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET> wrote: > >> > >>> The official VW Parts says the spindle diameter changed in 84 model > year > >> production at chassis number E - 023827 so most 84 would have the later > >> bearing. Only pretty early 84 model year vans would have the old > bearing. > >> The factory built roughly 150,000 T3 vehicles most years. > >>> > >>> Not sure why you gave much credit to TK since Mark Ward blamed the > >> bearings right away. Meanwhile TK had you replacing the master cylinder, > >> looking for bad hoses, bad bleeders, and said several times that the > >> bearing were likely not the cause. > >>> > >>> Yes, VanCafe rocks, as usual! > >>> > >>> Mark D > >>> > >>> > >>> Eric Wunrow wrote: > >>>> THANK YOU everyone for your help!!! > >>>> > >>>> The problem is fixed, and as I "just knew," yes my brake issue was > >> related to putting in front bearings. > >>>> > >>>> As I kept saying ad nauseum, coincidences are rare in the mechanical > >> world… > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Here's the short version… > >>>> All Vanagons prior to later 1984 ending with 150001 as their chassis > >> number (findable on the rearward side of the frame wall under the bus > and > >> below the passenger seat), which should match the VIN if not chopped, > had a > >> smaller front spindle diameter. > >>>> > >>>> In our case, the mechanic used the later-version bearings on our > >> early-1984 bus, meaning there was a huge amount of slop in the front > >> bearings that enabled rotor-centering inconsistencies under braking. > Hence, > >> pedal went to floor, then fine, then somewhere in between... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sans repeating the entire saga, and hopefully without irritating our > >> lovely hosts here, here's all the details: > >>>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=667705& > >> postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > >
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