

| Subject: | Re: block of random characters |
| From: | Jim Arnott |
| Date: | Wed, 14 Dec 2016 05:03:25 -0800 |
Vice versa. Reply goes to the sender. Reply All goes to the sender & the list. That’s a feature. It sometimes prevents embarrassment. And thank you Bill. Jim > On Dec 6, 2016, at 11:47 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: > > If you do a simple reply to a list message, it's sent to the list and then > re-sent from the list to all active list subscribers. > > If you do a Reply-All, another copy is sent from you directly to the author > of the message you're replying to. > > Yrs, > d > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Bill Glenn <idahobill@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Full disclosure, I'm no expert, but here's what I know about this >> problem. >> 1. I first raised this issue of unreadable text back in December of >> 2009. I was told by a moderator that the problem was on my end, but I >> know that not to be the case. >> >> 2. The block of random characters are not random at all. These >> characters are the result of messages being encoded with Base64 >> encoding. >> >> 3. You can convert Base64 encoding by copying and pasting the message >> into a Base64 decoder such as this one: >> https://www.opinionatedgeek.com/codecs/base64decoder >> >> 4. The Vanagon List, aka Gerry, operates in plain text only; it cannot >> convert Base64 encoding to plain text, so these unreadable messages are >> going into the archives just as they are: unreadable. >> >> 5. In digest mode Gerry compiles messages from the archives and sends >> them out periodically as a group of messages. If a message is >> unreadable in the archives, it will be unreadable when you receive it in >> digest mode. >> >> 6. If you are not receiving messages in digest mode, it is my >> understanding that each individual message is relayed directly from the >> sender to you, without going through Gerry. For those of you who say >> you have never experienced a problem, you are likely not receiving >> messages in digest mode, and your email client is decoding the Base64 >> message and converting it to plain text. >> >> 7. The unfortunate aspect to all this, beside those of us in digest >> mode being unable to easily read some messages (without manually >> decoding them), is that the archives are being corrupted with messages >> that also cannot be read without manually decoding them. See for >> yourself by going to the archives to peruse the messages: >> http://gerry.vanagon.com/archives/vanagon.html >> >> 8. The solution is for everyone on the list to ensure that you are >> sending messages in plain text, nothing else. As I said, I'm no expert, >> so I cannot tell you how to do this within all the various email >> clients. >> >> It was my hope back in 2009, and remains now, that someone acquainted >> with the various email clients and the means by which one selects for >> plain text, and/or the means by which the coding/decoding information is >> contained in the email headers, could provide a tutorial for fixing this >> problem. I would if I could, but this is way outside my area of >> expertise. >>
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