I do like the Olympian.  That looks small enough to leave it there year
round.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016, 1:57 PM David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote:

> The small Olympian looks very attractive for a non-vented heater, and it's
> adjustable down from 1/8 lb/hr to less than half that.  It doesn't change
> the physics of non-vented heaters, though -- it uses the same amount of
> oxygen and produces the same amount of water vapor (about 3/4 litre of
> liquid water per pound of propane burnt) as any other non-vented LP heater.
>
> Yrs,'
> d
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've mentioned this a number of times before but it may be worth
> mentioning
> > it again for some considering heating with propane. Check out the
> Olympian
> > Wave III. Mine is plumbed in to the propane tank and mounted on the
> > passenger seat bulkhead facing into the cabin. It uses very little oxygen
> > to produce the heat that it does, hence not so much water vapor as the
> > cheaper heaters. I crack a sliding window a few inches and that works.
> Have
> > camped with it many many times.
> >
> > <
> > http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/olympian-wave-3-
> > catalytic-safety-heater/19332
> > >
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 8:07 AM Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've found that a small propane bottle will keep me warm for about 6
> or 7
> > > days in my tintop.  The low setting gets it too warm in maybe one
> minute,
> > > then I turn it off... Depending, of course, on the outside temperature,
> > the
> > > Vanagon remains comfortable for some time, then I turn the knob and the
> > > heater does it again.... another minute or two.
> > >   I started with a barbecue-size bottle and the hose, and with it below
> > > freezing in a blizzard, I ran it on "low", shutting down for only short
> > > periods till it got uncomfortable, (no curtains or windshield cover)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 15, 2016 4:34 AM, "Ryan Perry" <rjdperry@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good point and only a propane heater meant to be used indoors should
> be
> > > > considered. Luckily these being discussed are catalytic and meant for
> > > just
> > > > that with O2 and Tip over sensor. The most dangerous part about it is
> > > > accidently burning yourself. Also, our vans are leaky and airy enough
> > > that
> > > > I would wonder if lack of O2 would ever be an issue?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016, 7:18 AM Mark Milby <obxmilby@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > *Danger Will Robinson! Danger!*
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope everyone is aware of the dangers of propane heaters indoors.
> > > Some
> > > > > are OK, most are not. I was at the F1 GP camping in Indy when the
> > three
> > > > > guys died heating there camper with propane. It was an ugly scene.
> > > > >
> > > > > Be very careful, or better yet find another heat source.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 7:12 AM, Michael McSwain <
> > > > michaelmcswain@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think I agree.  For size,  heat and propane consumption I'm
> going
> > > to
> > > > > > exchange it for the smaller one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the input
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016, 5:14 AM David Beierl <
> dbeierl@attglobal.net>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At the high setting of 9,000 BTU/hr, Don, the one you linked will
> > use
> > > > up
> > > > > a
> > > > > > pound bottle of gas in two hours and change.  The lower setting
> is
> > > > around
> > > > > > 6,000 BTU/hr, should run around three and a half hours.  In my
> > > > experience
> > > > > > as well as getting expensive quickly with the pound bottles, it
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > > > better in the van if the high setting were around 5-6000 BTU/hr
> and
> > > the
> > > > > low
> > > > > > setting half that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They make a smaller unit that stands on top of the bottle that
> > Harry
> > > > > > Hoffman has been very pleased with in his van.  One setting,
> rated
> > > 3800
> > > > > > BTU/hr -- should go over five hours on a pound bottle.  However
> it
> > > > would
> > > > > > need modification to be able to work with an external hose as it
> > > simply
> > > > > > screws to the bottle top.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael, I think you'd be happier with either one of the smaller
> > > ones.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yrs,
> > > > > > d
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:56 AM, Michael McSwain <
> > > > > michaelmcswain@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just bought the larger version with two burners,  but I'm
> > thinking
> > > > > about
> > > > > > returning it in exchange for the smaller one.  Has the smaller
> > > version
> > > > > left
> > > > > > anyone wanting for more heat or does it seem to be adequate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, 10:42 PM Richard Koerner <
> > rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don,
> > > > > > > I am fully in agreement with your choice of Mr Heater.  I have
> > the
> > > > > Little
> > > > > > > Buddy heater; same principle as the bigger one, just smaller.
> > > Works
> > > > > > > great.  ESPECIALLY in low humidity and low elevations like you
> > are
> > > > now
> > > > > > > dealing with in the Southern California deserts.  I was amazed
> > and
> > > > > > thrilled
> > > > > > > first time I used it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, the issues are getting rid of carbon monoxide and water
> > > vapor; a
> > > > > > > generous crack in the side windows, both sides, and a passage
> for
> > > > stuff
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > go out the vent upstairs, and you've got a nice, tidy, comfy
> > little
> > > > > > Vanagon
> > > > > > > world.
> > > > > > > Word is that it fails above 7,000 feet....but that is not the
> > > > situation
> > > > > > > where you are now, in the low desert.  Actually, I've never
> tried
> > > > mine
> > > > > > > above 7,000 feet.  Like in the Eastern Sierras at late Spring
> or
> > > > early
> > > > > > Fall.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah, pretty nice to be warm and comfy; my Little Buddy Heater
> > from
> > > > Mr
> > > > > > > Heater is packed and ready to go with a couple green propane
> > > > cylinders
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > Walmart, you know, the little ones.  Might go this weekend.
> > > Vanagon
> > > > > > > comfort at its finest.
> > > > > > > The desert out there is starting to look mighty nice; couple
> more
> > > > > > > rainstorms and we are in good shape.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > RichSan Diego
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >       From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
> > > > > > >  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > > > > >  Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:50 PM
> > > > > > >  Subject: Mr Heater
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just came through a few days of cold weather in my
> > > tintop/westie...
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > wind howling, snow blowing at elevation, and cold rain
> elsewhere.
> > > > This
> > > > > > > trip, I have along a Mr. Heater, a catalytic propane unit that
> > uses
> > > > > those
> > > > > > > small green propane  cylinders or  connects to a normal tank
> > with a
> > > > > hose.
> > > > > > > I can't believe I've camped and traveled for so long without
> any
> > > real
> > > > > > > heat...
> > > > > > >   The heater gets the van comfortable in a few minutes, it has
> > two
> > > > > temp.
> > > > > > > settings and a pilot light, a low O2 shutoff and a tip over
> > switch.
> > > > > I've
> > > > > > > not timed how long the small cannisters will go.  Pretty
> compact
> > > when
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > > the small size propane, which tucks into the housing nicely.
> > These
> > > > > heat
> > > > > > > soundlessly, almost..  fairly reasonable.... I gave $60 + 20
> for
> > > the
> > > > > hose
> > > > > > > to a bigger refillable tank.  Pretty cheesy construction, but
> it
> > > > works
> > > > > > > great ..and no more diving right into a sleeping bag as soon as
> > > > dinner
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > cooked, to keep from freezing...
> > > > > > >     A thumbs up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.farmandfleet.com/products/395472-mr-heater-
> > > > > > portable-buddy-propane-heater.html?feedsource=3&gclid=Cj0KEQiAsf_
> > > > > > BBRDMpoOHw4aSq4QBEiQAPm7DL-2y2en3ABEpOhxnGay7WV5678qK_
> > > > > > u51FhG-6Cy1HdcaArlf8P8HAQ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sheesh, big link there.. sending by Android from the desert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>