

| Subject: | Re: Fixed dash lights, not certain how. |
| From: | David Beierl |
| Date: | Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:04:12 -0500 |
According to the diagram it did. Later years don't. On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > heh. "Sadly", no magic smoke released; our fellow campers ended up > with a lack lustre afternoon. LOL. > > I see earlier BA6 diagrams in my Bentley but the are quite similar (to > my untrained eye) to the later style. I may peruse the Diesel Vanagon > BA6 diagrams. > > The dash lights did work then after the owner took it for a drive, > they failed. I checked light operation while fuse panel was lowered > but did not check them after re-attaching the fuse panel. I'm > suspecting a rogue wire or other part above fuse panel is causing the > short. Maybe a wire from the load side of the fuse slipped off when > panel was lowered for the headlight relay install (by someone else). > It's that or something to do with the decomissioned fog lights; that > circuit may still be live though I found no power at wire that was > connected to lights at bumper area. > > The 50 wire must've connected to the brake light module at one point. > The shrink wrap that covered the now removed terminal does not look > OEM at all. > > Neil. > > On 12/15/16, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: > > Too bad it's an '85. '84 and earlier would have smoked the harness and > let > > you know right away where the short was. ;-) > > > > BA6 diagram in Bentley is only for 2.1l with the new fuse block, so no > help > > with the specifics of how that one was put in. > > > > I've got no clue why they ran 50 to the brake/seat belt light module. I > > can't even see them in daylight, so I drilled a hole in the brake one to > > let the light out, and I ignore the other one. Perhaps it's a trigger to > > start a timeout for the belt one after you start the engine? > > > > Yrs, > > d > > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi all. > >> > >> Im far from home on a road trip, traveling with a friend who owns an > 1985 > >> westy. All of his dash lights were out. The S13 blade type fuse had > >> failed. > >> A new fuse also failed. The following systems are present but > >> decommissioned: aux ba6 gas heater, Anti theft devices, possible fog > >> light > >> relay, "factory" looking fog light switch at RH side of instrument > >> cluster. > >> > >> Though I thought we'd found the short, and though I "fixed" his dash > >> lights, I'm not certain the cause of fuse failure was really resolved. I > >> originally thought a damaged (exposed copper) piggybacked wire off the > 30 > >> wire to the gas heater relay was shorting to the frame causing fuse S13 > >> to > >> blow, but that wire tested for battery voltage in spite of the fuse in > >> question being blown. And, looking at the wiring diagrams, I don't see > >> S13 > >> involved with the gas heater circuits. Does the gas heater use s13 in > any > >> way? > >> > >> All told, I cleaned up the anti theft wiring, capped and,or repaired > >> various stock wires at cluster and dash, removed some non op wires, > >> installed a new dahs light, added shrink wrap and tape to non insulated > >> exposed terminals at what is likely the fog light relay. > >> > >> It's possible the exposed terminals at the loose mystery relay, > >> remaining > >> dangling exterior fog light wire (end rested on frame, albeit a dirty > >> connection if any) could've been the source of the short but im > concerned > >> only I "fixed" the problem by inadvertently moving a shorting out wire > or > >> whatever away from frame metal and that the issue may happen again. > >> > >> This is a separate issue, but does the 50 wire to the brake warning > light > >> simply turn off the light when cranking engine? That wire has been > >> removed > >> from the connector. It was likely used as part of a starter motor anti > >> theft device. > >> > >> > >> TIA a bunch, > >> > >> Neil. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Neil n > >> > >> Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> > >> > >> 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy> > >> > >> 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical > >> <http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/> > >> > >> Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay> > >> > > > > > -- > Neil n > > Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> > > 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy> > > 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical <http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/> > > Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay> >
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