

| Subject: | Re: Mechanical/Brakes/1984 Westy |
| From: | Eric Wunrow |
| Date: | Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:39:44 -0500 |
Thank You, David� I try despite screwing up once every several years or so� :-) Eric Eric Wunrow Pictures 303. 988. 8717 VW@EricWunrow.com (for this list's emails) EW@EricWunrow.com (for private messages) On Dec 12, 2016, at 11:25 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote: > Good on ye, mate. > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote: > >> Thank You, Stephen, I really appreciate that! >> >> I hope everyone here understands my replies and confusion(s) in this >> matter. It's been a real challenge to keep this sucker rolling and finding >> reliable mechanics as well. But thankfully, there's been enough of them to >> keep us moving forward. >> >> Thanks again to everyone. >> >> Eric >> Eric Wunrow Pictures >> 303. 988. 8717 >> >> VW@EricWunrow.com (for this list's emails) >> EW@EricWunrow.com (for private messages) >> >> >> >> On Dec 6, 2016, at 11:45 AM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM> wrote: >> >>> I just read the entire Samba thread on the subject and think every >> poster--yes, even TK, whose unique style shone through >> nonetheless--conducted himself admirably. I was recently involved in a >> troubleshooting thread on a different forum and the clash over "...it's not >> possible..." might have brought the contributors to blows if they'd been in >> the same room. >>> The thing about problems like this is that it's hard to stay on track >> and not be driven crazy, even without off the wall suggestions by the >> onlookers. My uncle Elmer, no matter what the problem, always suggested >> checking the tire pressure. But he was a professional trucker with an >> entire shop at his disposal, so had nothing to lose by spitballing. Glad >> you got it fixed. >>> Stephen >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 4:40 AM, David Beierl < >> dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote: >>> >>> >>> "There was zero reference in that post to make anyone think "wrong style >>> bearings�" so I think my reply there is fitting." >>> >>> There are really only two reasons that could lead to bad clearances in a >>> tapered roller bearing -- wrong size bearing or damaged shaft. MarkWard >>> pointed you directly to the trouble, and certainly deserves credit for >> his >>> clear thinking. It is difficult to understand how any mechanic could >>> install a bearing half that was an eighth of an inch too large for the >>> shaft, but checking the clearances as MarkWard said would have instantly >>> found it . >>> >>> Yrs, >>> d >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The overriding opinion on several fronts, even beyond here, was master >>>> cylinder-related, and several other potential issues others supported. >>>> >>>> >>>> Terry busted his butt trying to help us, we shared many posts, emails, >>>> texts, and phone calls. >>>> >>>> I'm sure not going to apologize for thanking someone that was really >> there >>>> for me from Day 1. >>>> >>>> >>>> I've replied to Mark's post on the Samba� or, is that you and you're >>>> blowing your own horn? There was zero reference in that post to make >> anyone >>>> think "wrong style bearings�" so I think my reply there is fitting. >>>> >>>> >>>> My appreciation for each and every reply I've gotten from everyone has >>>> been stated, as I really am very thankful for everyone's help! >>>> >>>> This is the only note I could have done without� please just avoid my >>>> posts from here on out. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> Eric Wunrow Pictures >>>> 303. 988. 8717 >>>> >>>> VW@EricWunrow.com (for this list's emails) >>>> EW@EricWunrow.com (for private messages) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The official VW Parts says the spindle diameter changed in 84 model >> year >>>> production at chassis number E - 023827 so most 84 would have the later >>>> bearing. Only pretty early 84 model year vans would have the old >> bearing. >>>> The factory built roughly 150,000 T3 vehicles most years. >>>>> >>>>> Not sure why you gave much credit to TK since Mark Ward blamed the >>>> bearings right away. Meanwhile TK had you replacing the master cylinder, >>>> looking for bad hoses, bad bleeders, and said several times that the >>>> bearing were likely not the cause. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, VanCafe rocks, as usual! >>>>> >>>>> Mark D >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Eric Wunrow wrote: >>>>>> THANK YOU everyone for your help!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem is fixed, and as I "just knew," yes my brake issue was >>>> related to putting in front bearings. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I kept saying ad nauseum, coincidences are rare in the mechanical >>>> world� >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's the short version� >>>>>> All Vanagons prior to later 1984 ending with 150001 as their chassis >>>> number (findable on the rearward side of the frame wall under the bus >> and >>>> below the passenger seat), which should match the VIN if not chopped, >> had a >>>> smaller front spindle diameter. >>>>>> >>>>>> In our case, the mechanic used the later-version bearings on our >>>> early-1984 bus, meaning there was a huge amount of slop in the front >>>> bearings that enabled rotor-centering inconsistencies under braking. >> Hence, >>>> pedal went to floor, then fine, then somewhere in between... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sans repeating the entire saga, and hopefully without irritating our >>>> lovely hosts here, here's all the details: >>>>>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=667705& >>>> postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >
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