

| Subject: | Re: Multi meters, Was Dang Headlights. |
| From: | Ralph Meyermann |
| Date: | Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:27:35 -0600 |
As long at the right meter/amp clamp is used! On Jan 8, 2017 3:31 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > The MS2108A meter has both AC and DC current capability with the clamp on. > AC is easier to measure this way due to the constantly changing current > basically making a small transformer. For sensing DC this way the meter has > to rely on the one time change. > > Dennis > > > From: Ralph Meyermann [mailto:ralphmeyermann@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 4:26 PM > To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Multi meters, Was Dang Headlights. > > Depending on meter, some prefer AC current. I think but not sure DC > current is usually connected in the current path to read? > > On Jan 8, 2017 3:23 PM, "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@hotmail.com<mailto: > d23haynes57@hotmail.com>> wrote: > This meter has both a 40 and 400 Amp range. Measuring small DC currents > with a clamp on meter can be a bit challenging. This meter seems to work ok > for small currents down to about an amp but I wouldn't use it as my first > choice say for finding small battery drains. > > Dennis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Williams [mailto:steve@williamsitconsulting.com<mailto:steve@ > williamsitconsulting.com>] > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 1:03 PM > To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM<mailto:d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>>; > vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com<mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> > Subject: Re: Multi meters, Was Dang Headlights. > > Hi Dennis, > > Thanks for the information and the link. I have a $20 Radio Shack (is > that dating myself?) meter in my tool box. The lack of the ability to > measure current is real frustrating with it. > > The meter that you specify, what is the smallest current that it can > accurately pick up with the inductive clamp? I've never used one. > > Thanks again! > > Cheers, > Steve Williams > > On 06/01/2017 10:51 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > > So here we are in the New Year and Friday is over. I'd like to try doing > something a little bit different. When a thread comes up I will try to > offer some type of enlightenment to get us thinking of a better or > different way. Let's raise the bar! So here is a safety thought for meters. > > > > Inexpensive meters have their place. Most of the time when something is > not working we just need to know if the power is on or if there is > continuity. Heck often still reach for a test lamp. Accuracy is not a > concern for many diagnostic needs. > > > > But there is another consideration, safety. Of course we should be > wearing eye protection when working with electricity, especially around > batteries. At some point we will use a meter incorrectly either because we > don't know what we are doing or we make a mistake. Maybe we are testing for > resistance and place the leads across a voltage source instead. For 12 > volts this usually is not an issue. Although if use the ammeter function > and we connect across battery there is hope that the fuse will open, and > fast enough to prevent some mishap. Also, at some point you know you will > try to use the same meter for a 120 volt AC circuit or maybe you are at a > campground that even has 240 VAC at the power pole. Even using a meter > properly one could be exposed to a high voltage spike or surge that could > overcome the insulation capabilities of the meter or leads. > > > > Meter are now also rated for protection levels. Here is some information. > > http://support.fluke.com/find-sales/download/asset/1263690_6116_eng_h_ > > w.pdf > > > > As for features of late I have mentioned getting a meter with a clamp on > ammeter. Also, having a bar graph display is really helpful when trying to > observe a vary condition such as the O2 sensor. Most bar graphs will update > multiple times per second, much faster than a numeric display. > > > > Here is a meter I purchased from Amazon back in June. It usually goes > for ~$40. It has both AC and DC ammeter capability up to 400 amps and it > has a bar graph display. It has a hold function so you can catch a reading > such as testing the starter. Even nicer is that this economy meter is rated > for Category 3 protection. > > > > MS2108A Auto Range Digital Clamp Meter 400 AC DC Current Hz Tester > > > > This meter is now my travel meter and I'll be getting another one. > > > > Dennis >
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