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Subject:Re: Gas tank hard to fill, another issue
From:Steven Johnson
Date:Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:46:15 -0500

As stated on every pump I've seen,  you are not leave the fuel hose
unattended (even though
I see many lazy people set up the hose and then go and sit in their cars
until they hear a
click).   I've had hoses pop off even while I'm standing there holding it
with one hand and had
it splash all over my sandaled foot.  This was in Iowa.   I let the owner
know I was not pleased.....

Steven

91 Westy

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am currently in California, where the gas nozzles have these
> spring-loaded bellows surrounding the actual metal nozzle..In other Western
> states these aren't usually encountered (by me).  My 84, when the tank is
> full, has forever "burped" and "drooled" a tiny bit of gas down it's body
> as the auto-shutoff works.. Not much and my Vanagon is asuan
> brown😕.....But here in California, it often spits the whole bloody hose
> forcefully out.. right onto the ground.  Often the hose ejects itself
> randomly, without warning, too...
>   You California Vanagon peeps, how do you deal with THIS "safety"
> feature?  One day the ejected nozzle may cause a spark as it hits the
> ground.... I'd hate that..👻
>
> On Jan 13, 2017 8:42 AM, "Stuart MacMillan" <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's been my experience that as the tank gets fuller, you do need to slow
> down the fill rate or the pump will shut off.  Surging out can also happen.
> The air in the tank is vented through the fill neck when filling and is now
> usually sucked up by a vapor control system built into the pump nozzle. I
> think the "camel hump" design of these tanks causes surging if you fill too
> fast. The pump's auto shut off sends puffs of air down the fill pipe and
> measures the time it takes the puffs to bounce back off the surface of the
> fuel. When it rises or sloshes up the pipe it will shut off the pump, but
> often not fast enough or too soon.
>
> It's not your charcoal canister, if that was plugged your tank would
> collapse as the fuel was drawn down. You probably had enough air leaks
> before you resealed the tank to minimize surging.
>
> Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Gordon
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:41 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Gas tank hard to fill
>
> I've been having a harder time filling my 89 Westy's gas tank more and
> more.
> Something is blocking or causing back pressure such that the gas station
> nozzle is made to stop. I am forced to slowly feed the tank an ounce at a
> time and it takes forever with much spill over.  I've tried several
> stations
> and it isn't them, I'm afraid.
>
> I've heard of some filter? Or charcoal? In the way there?  Anyone know what
> part may be the culprit?
>
> Thanks,
> - g=
>

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