Ok, saw the pics. To be honest those were the type of led bulbs that I rejected. My reasoning, and I'm spitballing here so take it for what it's worth, is that those led units do not mimic the filament position of the halogen bulbs. I think they won't produce as sharp and defined beam pattern as the ones I chose. I may be wrong, but that was my reasoning. My concern is the low beam cut off that the e code lamps are designed to produce. 

They will be bright but I'm going to predict they will be more glaring on low beam than the ones I bought.

But let's see, right? It's pouring down rain tonight here, I didn't do the "lights on the wall comparing halogen and led test" . But let's both get that done sooner rather than later and we can compare, ok?

Cheers

Alistair

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:07 PM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Here is a link to a couple of pictures of the bulbs and also a picture of my friend's van with the bulbs installed.
> 
> https://goo.gl/photos/5xTbpCWbrBXvDApXA
> 
> Ken
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Ken,
>> 
>> I'd draw your attention to the layout of the leds on the bulb. I choose the one I did as I thought the layout most closely matched the filament layout in the halogen.
>> 
>> I'm of two minds about the fan cooled units. On one hand it would allow a more powerful led array, on the other hand it's one more thing to go wrong. But that failure fear is probably un warranted. Btw, my bulbs are 25W each.
>> 
>> I wouldn't put too much faith in advertised light output numbers, lumens. It suspect that they are calculated values based on led characteristics and not very accurate in real life.
>> 
>> The power handling electronics are built into the lamps I have, no separate box in line. Just a pigtail to a three prong male plug.
>> 
>> And see if you can discern any radio interference. Try a faint fm station.
>> 
>> I'm interested in your opinion about the light quality, especially distance with high beams.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Alistair
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:17 PM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > They are kind of similar.  It looks like they may have a fan on the rear of the bulb and a heat sink.  Also there is a box where electronics lives that reminds me of the HID bulbs they we were experimenting with a little while ago.  I wanted to install these today and do the video but it is raining here and my shop is tied up at the moment.  Maybe if I can get the bus I am working on out of the shop or have a decent weather day, I can install them on a customer's van that is here right now and do the video.  I have some pictures from my friend that I supplied them to for testing purposes and he loves them and they do give off more light and a nice white light that doesn't look weird (HIDs I am thinking of you).
>> >
>> > Ken
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >> Kenneth,
>> >>
>> >> Are the similar in form factor to the ones I posted on my blog? The link to the source is also on the blog post.
>> >>
>> >> Are they passively cooled or do they have a fan?
>> >>
>> >> And do they interfere with weak radio signals or communication radio?
>> >>
>> >> Btw, The bulbs come with adapters to fit H4, H7, H11, 9005, 9006.
>> >>
>> >> Alistair
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 8:05 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I have been experimenting with LED and HID bulbs in the square headlights
>> >> > for a while now.  Just waiting until I got enough experience with them to
>> >> > talk to the List and my customers about them.  I tried the HIDs first and
>> >> > they worked kinda sorta.  If you have low voltage problem at the
>> >> > headlights, the HIDs will refuse to come on.  :-(  Since lots of Vanagons
>> >> > have this issue and the light from them is very glaringly not stock, I have
>> >> > decided that HIDs are a bad choice for the Vanagon although they do put out
>> >> > a lot of light.  There is the strange issue that the high beams on the HIDs
>> >> > are still halogens too.  Yeah weird.
>> >> >
>> >> > The LEDs seem to be the best option and I have found some bulbs that seem
>> >> > to work well, and not really have much of a down side.  I know folks are
>> >> > switching over to the H4 round lights and that is fine and dandy but there
>> >> > will always be those of us that actually like the square headlight look,
>> >> > but want more light.  Since the H4 squares have been off the scene for a
>> >> > while now, going with an LED bulb in place of the crappy 9004 bulb in the
>> >> > DOT housing is something I wanted to try out.  I am probably going to do a
>> >> > video on it on my Youtube channel in the near future and compare with the
>> >> > stock DOT lights.  Then we are going to be selling the LED bulbs through
>> >> > our site at that point, so if you are interested let me know.  They will be
>> >> > in the $60 range for a pair of bulbs, which isn't too bad for something
>> >> > that is pretty much a drop in replacement.  Yes it is alot more than the
>> >> > stock bulbs but something that actually puts out a nice light and isn't as
>> >> > touchy about voltage, unloads the headlight switch without relays.  There
>> >> > are lots of pluses.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ken Wilford
>> >> > John 3:16
>> >> > www.vanagain.com
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Alistair,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> please also report any oncoming traffic that feels blinded by your LEDs.
>> >> >> This is mostly the reason why police stops you with non-streetlegal
>> >> >> bulbs...in Germany.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Raimund
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Am 17.01.2017 um 15:05 schrieb Johann Koenig:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Just picked up 7" LED buckets:
>> >> >>> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_2564_141/led_headlight_pair.html
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Have not installed yet but when I stopped by to pick them up yesterday the
>> >> >>> staff said they are very good.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Jan 16, 2017 11:40 PM, "Alistair Bell" <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I had to try, the bulbs looked like they would work. And did they?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> See here on my blog
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> https://shufti.blog/2017/01/16/vanagon-h4-led-light-bulb-experiment/
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Wasn't a complete waste of time and money, it was interesting.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Alistair
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Ken Wilford
>> >> > John 3:16
>> >> > www.vanagain.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ken Wilford
>> > John 3:16
>> > www.vanagain.com
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com